Ozone Use in Marine Aquariums

This article is an updated version of an article I wrote for Freshwater and Marine Aquarium Magazine back in 2001.

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THE USE OF OZONE IN MARINE AQUARIUM SYSTEMS
By Jay Hemdal​


Ozone, (O3) has the same elemental composition as oxygen, (O2) but very different chemical properties. Ozone, (tri-atomic oxygen) is a very unstable molecule. It is a powerful oxidizer. When ozone comes in contact with a compound exhibiting an “oxygen demand”, it releases one of its oxygen atoms resulting in the formation of an oxygen molecule, with the third oxygen atom becoming attached to the now oxidized compound. A theoretical example of this reaction would be the addition of ozone to an aquarium containing a certain amount of nitrite (NO>-). The third oxygen atom in the ozone molecule would contact the nitrite molecule oxidizing it to nitrate (NO3-) and leaving an oxygen molecule (O2).

For use in home aquariums, there are two methods that this gas is commonly produced: either by a photochemical reaction using ultraviolet light or through a hot or cold corona discharge device. In almost every case, ozone is dissolved in the aquarium water by means of a contact chamber, usually a protein skimmer. Ozone gas dissolved in marine aquarium water has been used both as a disinfectant, as well as a means to oxidize certain toxic metabolites produced by the aquarium inhabitants. The various chemical reactions ozone exhibits when exposed to seawater are extremely complicated. Some aquarium “chemists” may be a bit too quick to describe these theoretical reactions, and do so at the risk of over-extrapolation, and the real-world results may be very different. Industry manufacturers also attempt to define the activity of ozone in water, but since there is the underlying message to buy their products, one cannot always accept their information at face value. What I propose to do in this article is describe my findings regarding the use of ozone in synthetic seawater, using primarily the easily discernible results of first applying ozone to synthetic seawater and then measuring the results. I’ll not conjecture on the results of the theoretical chemical reactions involved, nor repeat sales pitches from manufacturers. Please understand that this is a hugely complicated topic. While I believe the information presented here is accurate, it is not all encompassing; there is still a lot more research to be done in this field.

First, a few definitions might be in order. In this article, the term DOC refers to organic carbon compounds dissolved in the water such as oils, humic acid, phenols, etc. Particulate organic carbons, POC are the organic particles suspended in the water including uneaten food, detritus, algae, bacteria and protozoans. These two categories in combination are referred to as TOC — Total Organic Carbon. Ozone can convert some of an aquarium’s POC into DOC, as well as change the chemical form of some of the DOC, but there is very little direct reduction of TOC by ozone. In other words: ozone may break down algae, protozoans and bacteria to their non-living, chemical components. It may also oxidize some organic compounds into new forms. But without some additional mechanism, such as foam fractionation, ozone by itself completely oxidizes very few of these materials. In addition, ozone can react with some inorganic compounds and oxidize them as well.

It is a commonly held belief that ozone enhances bubble formation in protein skimmers. In my experience, injecting small amounts of ozone into a properly adjusted skimmer has little real affect on the amount or character of the foam produced. However, suddenly injecting very high doses of ozone seems to have an effect of producing clearer, more watery foam. Injecting moderate amounts of ozone for long periods of time tends to produce clearer, but relatively dry foam. On a skimmer that has had its foam production temporarily reduced (by cleaning out the unit or feeding the aquarium) abruptly adding ozone seems to hasten the rebound of the unit back to its normal level of foam production.

Safety is an important issue when working with ozone. Humans can sense ozone in air at a level of around 0.02 to 0.05 mg/l, very near the critical exposure level cited in many industrial applications. The real danger in working with ozone is in the case of large commercial units. In most instances, home aquarium ozone generators with outputs less than 250 mg per hour will not cause acute toxicity in humans. They can however, cause chronic health problems such as coughing and headaches if not used properly. Remember, if you can smell ozone, the concentration in the air of the room is too high!

The action of ozone on seawater produces various forms of organic and inorganic oxidants (Crecelius 1979). Administering a proper dosage of ozone in aquarium applications is frequently a problem. The result of improper dosage is either a low concentration that does not produce the expected benefit, or an excessive amount that can prove toxic to the aquarium inhabitants. The oxidants produced by the reaction of ozone in seawater can most easily be measured indirectly by means of a DPD (N,N-diethyl-p-phenylenediamine) total chlorine colorimetric method (APHA et-al 1980). As the color change of the DPD method is very small at low doses, a spectrophotometer is usually required to interpret the results at low concentrations of ozone. The results of the DPD test are affected if the alkalinity of the sample is greater than 300mg/1 or if there is chlorine, bromine or iodine present at high enough levels. A much more accurate method, (but vastly more expensive procedure) is the Hach Company’s Indigo trisulfonate Accu Vac method. While this test is free from most interferences, use of a spectrophotometer is mandatory, and it seems that this test only works for freshwater systems. Many home aquarists use an Oxidation / Reduction Potential (ORP) probe to indirectly measure ozone levels. In some cases, the ORP probe is used to automatically control the output of the ozone generator. Care should be taken using this method on small aquariums. ORP probes need frequent calibration, and are prone to sudden failure — sometimes in the “full on” setting. Furthermore, ORP only indirectly measures ozone, and does not differentiate between free ozone, ozone-oxidants or any other type of oxidant or reducing agents that might be present in the aquarium system.

Ozone-oxidants such as bromite, (Obr’) bromate, (BrO3°) hypobromous acid, (HOBr) and hypochlorites (OCI) are much more stable than free ozone. I had originally surmised that more than one type of oxidant might be formed at the same time. What that meant was that ozone reacted with marine aquarium water would create a mixture of oxidant compounds that would vary in their stability. The instable products would more quickly decompose, while the more stable oxidants would persist for a longer time. My early experiments seemed to bear this out. During one 96 hour trial, the decomposition rate was found to average 0.04 mg/l per hour, but was much faster early on in the trial as compared to the end (Hemdal 1992). It wasn’t until I examined the decomposition rate of ozone again many years later, that I discovered that the rate is logarithmic, but fairly consistent in that it doesn’t show the expected plateaus and sharp declines (Graph #1). The equation I used for the calculated decay rate was:

A =(LnY)/((LnX)/T). Where A is the time it takes the ozone to decay to the level Y (expressed as a decimal of the percentage; so if the amount of decay to be determined is 50% then Y would be 0.50). X is the previously measured percent of the material remaining after T time. Ln is the natural log of each of these numbers, and is most easily determined using a scientific calculator.

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I don’t have any explanation as to why the measured decay rate was faster than the calculated rate during the middle of the time frame, when both rates were equivalent at the beginning and the end of the graphed curves. When using this data to predict the amount of potentially toxic ozone-oxidants, it would be prudent to follow the slower, calculated decay rate.

During aeration of samples containing three oxidants, the decomposition rate of chlorine in tap water was found to be the fastest, followed by the decay rate of ozone oxidants in non-brominated synthetic seawater. Ozone-oxidants in seawater containing bromine had the longest half-life. In using logarithmic models for each of these cases, the decomposition rate was a consistent, logarithmic decline (Table 1).

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The time needed for enough of the oxidant to decompose through simple aeration to make the water safe for aquatic life varies on the starting concentration of the oxidants to begin with, but table 1 can be used to get a rough idea of this decay rate. For example: the old adage, “Aerate tap water for 24 hours prior to using it in an aquarium in order to dechlorinate It.” seems to hold true. Most city water systems deliver tap water containing a maximum of 1.0 mg/I total chlorine. About 85% of this chlorine will be neutralized during 24 hours of aeration — and the residual amount of .15 mg/I will have no detrimental effect on the aquarium inhabitants.

What are the best ways to control ozone/oxidant levels in aquariums? If an ozone test indicates low or no concentration of ozone, it is a simple matter for the aquarist to increase the output of the ozone generator by either turning up the rheostat running the unit for longer periods of time, or by using an air-dryer to increase efficiency of the generator unit. However, if the test shows excessive amounts of ozone-oxidants in the water, there is little published data as to how the concentrations of the ozone-oxidants may be quickly reduced. Spotte (1979) indicates that sodium thiosulfate may be used to reduce the level of ozone vented to the atmosphere during the reaction process as a means of alleviating the potential health hazard to humans. Sodium thiosulfate is routinely used in aquariums to neutralize free chlorine (Amlacher 1970). In a previous study, (Hemdal 1992) ozone gas was dissolved at various concentrations in synthetic seawater containing bromine. The toxicity of the resultant ozone-oxidants on Brachionus rotifers was noted. Fifty percent mortality occurred in as little as ten minutes at 9.0 mg/l ozone-oxidants. This ranged to greater than 23 hours for 0.43 mg/l ozone-oxidants. Sodium thiosulfate was added to water samples containing known toxic concentrations of ozone-oxidants. One milligram of sodium thiosulfate neutralized an average of 1 mg of ozone-oxidants (The actual amount varied and was dependent on the length of time the sample was aerated prior to the addition of the sodium thiosulfate. The longer the sample was aerated, the less effective sodium thiosulfate was in neutralization of oxidants). So: an aquarist faced with the challenge of detoxifying excess ozone-oxidants in an aquarium can simply add the same amount of sodium thiosulfate as there is ozone present. For aquarists without access to sodium thiosulfate, remember that this is the main component of aquarium water dechlorinators. Most of these products are designed to dechlorinate water on the order of 1 mg/I chlorine, so if your ozone level is at 2 mg/l, simply add a double dose of dechlorinator.

Rather than relying on potentially inaccurate ORP controllers, home aquarists might want to try the following method to achieve a steady state ozone dose for their aquarium — one that remains at a low, but constant level. This small dose of ozone will not have any real disinfectant ability, and it probably will not break down too many of the POC’s in the water. On the other hand, there is a high margin of safety in this method if applied properly.
  • Purchase an ozone generator with a rheostat control that can supply between 0.10 and 0.15 mg of ozone per liter of tank capacity per hour. Two small units operating in parallel may be the most cost effective way to boost ozone production.
  • Using a supply side air-dryer if the room is humid, add ozone at a relatively high rate into the tank through a protein skimmer, (0.10 mg ozone per liter of tank capacity per hour)
  • Monitor the level with a DPD ozone test. A spectrophotometer is best used for this, but this alternative method will work:
    • Create a “reagent blank” using deionized water and the DPD reagent
    • Add 1 drop white vinegar to 50 ml of the sample as a pre-treatment to avoid any interference from high alkalinity levels.
    • Add the DPD reagent to the tube containing the aquarium sample.
    • After 3 minutes, but before 5 minutes, hold both tubes over a piece of white paper.
    • The slightest pink color at all in the test sample indicates some ozone is present.
    • Higher amounts of ozone (> 0.01mg/l) should be discernable on the test’s color comparator chart.
    • Iodine and chlorine will react with the DPD test just like ozone will. Adding even a small amount of chlorinated tap water to an aquarium, or dosing with high amounts of iodine supplements will skew the results.
  • Turn off the ozone when the level in the tank reaches 0.02 mg/l or if ozone can be smelled in the room. Ozone in a room quickly desensitizes the human olfactory system, so be aware that you may not be able to smell it after a while. Continued exposure will cause coughing and headaches. Immediately turn the ozone generator off and move to fresh air if any symptoms occur.
  • Repeat this process for 4 to 6 hours each day for three days. Check the levels hourly.
  • Once the more easily oxidized compounds have reacted with this relatively high level of ozone, begin adjusting for a steady state ozone concentration.
  • Start with injecting 0.005 mg of ozone per liter per hour through the protein skimmer. Turn unit off at night, or whenever you are unable to monitor it closely. It is a little ironic that after all this research, this value is very close to the 0.003 mg ozone per liter per hour given by Robert Valenti over 30 years ago (Valenti 1968).
  • Raise the ozone level a little each day until one of two things occurs; either free ozone can be smelled in the room, or the DPD ozone test of the main portion of the aquarium reacts with any pink color at all (generally this happens at 0.005mg/1 ozone in water).
  • Lower the ozone production rate 25% from the previous setting. The aquarium should be able to operate continuously at this dosage over long periods of time, except in the case where activated carbon usage changes (The carbon “competes” with the ozone for many of the same compounds, changing in turn, the demand for ozone).
  • Never use this method with natural seawater, or any synthetic seawater containing natural levels of bromine (0.0673 mg/l). The ozone-oxidants formed when the ozone reacts with the bromine may be harmful to the animals.
  • For added safety the water returning to the tank from the protein skimmer / ozone reactor can be passed through activated carbon, which will remove any residual ozone. Be aware that the carbon once exhausted, will lose its capacity to remove ozone from the water. The difficulty of course, lies in knowing when the carbon needs to be changed.
Ozone is sometimes employed as a disease control agent. Proper application of ozone will reduce free living bacteria in systems. A recent study (Ge-Ling, 2022) concludes: “ …both ozone and UV are ineffective in controlling infection within an individual aquarium because of the adhesive nature of C. irritans tomonts (Ma et al., 2017). Therefore, the focus on UV and ozone treatment should prevent live theronts flow into aquaculture ponds. Second, the tomonts are strongly resistant to UV or ozone than theronts, implying that recommended production doses cannot wholly kill tomonts….”

Except in public aquariums needing to process huge amounts of water, ozone systems seem to have fallen out of favor in recent years. For these public aquariums needing “gin-clear” water for their exhibits, ozone remains an almost obligate choice. Many home marine aquarists seem to have gravitated towards different methods of water quality management. It is a little ironic that almost all of the home aquarium interest in ozone has been focused on the marine side of the hobby. Large freshwater aquariums can potentially benefit even more from the use of ozone. In these systems, there is no fear of producing residual ozone-oxidants, so ozone levels can be raised to levels that will sterilize the water, as well as oxidize most organic waste molecules, while still easily allowing the ozone to quickly decompose back to oxygen, before causing harm to the animals.

Do you need ozone for a marine aquarium of the size of most home systems? Probably not, there may be safer and less expensive methods, (like foam fractionators alone, or performing more frequent water changes) to achieve the same level of water quality. However, if you like to experiment with your aquariums, you might find one these units interesting to work with. If you already own an ozone generator, hopefully the information in this article will allow you to operate the unit in a safer, more effective manner.

Bibliography:

Amlacher, E. 1961. Taschenbuch der Fischkrankheiten. Translated by D.A. Conroy and R.L. Herman. Textbook of Fish Diseases. Neptune, New Jersey, T.F.H. Publications, Inc., 1970

APHA (American Public Health Association), American Water Works Association, and Water Pollution Control Federation. 1980. Standard methods for the examination of water and wastewater, 15th edition. American Public Health Association, Washington, D.C.

Crecelius, E. A. 1979. Measurements of oxidants in ozonized seawater and some biological reactions. Journal of the Fisheries Research Board of Canada 36:1006-1008

Ge-Ling Lu, Biao Jiang, Zhi-Cheng Li, An-Xing Li. 2022. Ultraviolet light and ozone controls Cryptocaryon irritans infection in factory aquaculture. Aquaculture, Published by Elsevier B.V.

Hemdal, J.F. 1992. Reduction of ozone oxidants in synthetic seawater by use of sodium thiosulfate. Progressive Fish-Culturist 54(1):54-56

Hoff, F. & Snell, T. W. 1987. Plankton Culture Manual. Florida Aqua Farms, Dade City Florida

Segedi, R. and W. E. Kelley. 1964. A new formula for artificial sea water. Sea-water systems for experimental aquariums: a collection of papers, J. R. Clark and R. L. Clark (editors) Research Report 63, Bureau of Sport Fisheries and Wildlife, Washington D.C.

Snell, T. W. & Persoone, G. 1989. Acute toxicity bioassays using rotifers. Aquatic Toxicology 14:65-80

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Valenti, R.J. 1968. The saltwater aquarium manual. Aquarium Stock Company, New York
 
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Hi @Jay Hemdal ,

Thank you for putting this article together, it is an interesting read, and certainly will be helpful to those interested in utilizing ozone for their systems. Congratulations for discovering the equation to model ozone oxidant decomposition rates; it seems this is incredibly helpful in being able to better understand and establish safe ozone dosing rates to our aquariums.

I've had an odd fascination with ozone use in reefs; I think perhaps it is the potential sustainability aspect of it when compared to use of GAC (water clarification ability), although there are several reasons I never moved forward with its use long-term:

1) In most of my readings/research, GAC was recommended to be placed on the outlet of reactor or skimmer outlets, so even if I was able to replace GAC with the use of ozone I would need to continue to purchase GAC.
2) I could not find a clear list of ozone capabilities at recommended safe dosages
3) A short-lived attempt at ozone use on a 90 gallon display ~ 2013 (this was a cheap (at the time) Enaly brand ozone generator with desiccant air dryer on inlet, controlled by Apex with ORP probe (sepoint ON @ < 300 ORP if I recall correctly) which resulted in killing several fish and inverts. To points in your article, perhaps the ORP probe failed, ORP was not a reliable method of measuring/controlling ozone addition, or there was bromine in the salt mix I was using at the time. I was not diligent enough at the time to follow up with understanding root cause...

Of course, your article has (re)piqued my curiosity and I have a few questions, if I may:

1) You mention GAC use while using the (DPD) testing procedure to establish the ~ 0.005 mg/l dosing rate using an ozone generator (this should be incredibly helpful for anyone wanting to utilize ozone safely in their system, and almost would have certainly saved me from disaster in 2013). Assuming testing is executed properly, does the hobbyist need to continue GAC use on the outlet of reactor/skimmer once the SS dosing rate has been established and testing is complete?

2) Are there any known references that may help describe specific results that a hobbyist could expect to see in their system at the ~ 0.005 mg/l ozone dosing rate?

3) In your opinion, is there any opportunity for ozone to replace the use of GAC (for the purpose of water clarity or toxin (from allelopathy or otherwise) removal)?

4) I have always assumed that a proper air dryer on the inlet is required in order to reliably maintain a consistent ozone generator output - do you generally agree with this, or is there some flexibility with dryer implementation?

5) As someone who has worked in the public aquarium/aquarium trade sector for a substantial amount of time (and understanding that a response here would not be taken as promotion); is there a brand of ozone generator (that offers affordable, hobbyist-size units) that you find are being utilized in professional/commercial/public settings most frequently? If there isn't a clear answer the question, could you simply tell us what brands you see most frequently used in your line of work?

~ Best Regards
 
Wouldn't using a UV combo that produces both ozone and UVC not be a safer application since it only produces ozone when on and dissipates that's produced thereby reducing use of GAC? Assuming 100% dissipated then need for ORP monitoring as means of control no longer needed and plugging the air inlet makes this effectively UV only, if needed.

Less complex than running corona discharge into ozone ready skimmer or reactor.

Not sure one needs to polish the water prior to passing by UV since ozone is oxidizing particulate matter which based on article still needs to be mechanically removed or can that just be allowed to decompose?

AQUAUV OZONE COMBO.JPG
 
Hi @Jay Hemdal ,

Thank you for putting this article together, it is an interesting read, and certainly will be helpful to those interested in utilizing ozone for their systems. Congratulations for discovering the equation to model ozone oxidant decomposition rates; it seems this is incredibly helpful in being able to better understand and establish safe ozone dosing rates to our aquariums.

I've had an odd fascination with ozone use in reefs; I think perhaps it is the potential sustainability aspect of it when compared to use of GAC (water clarification ability), although there are several reasons I never moved forward with its use long-term:

1) In most of my readings/research, GAC was recommended to be placed on the outlet of reactor or skimmer outlets, so even if I was able to replace GAC with the use of ozone I would need to continue to purchase GAC.
2) I could not find a clear list of ozone capabilities at recommended safe dosages
3) A short-lived attempt at ozone use on a 90 gallon display ~ 2013 (this was a cheap (at the time) Enaly brand ozone generator with desiccant air dryer on inlet, controlled by Apex with ORP probe (sepoint ON @ < 300 ORP if I recall correctly) which resulted in killing several fish and inverts. To points in your article, perhaps the ORP probe failed, ORP was not a reliable method of measuring/controlling ozone addition, or there was bromine in the salt mix I was using at the time. I was not diligent enough at the time to follow up with understanding root cause...

Of course, your article has (re)piqued my curiosity and I have a few questions, if I may:

1) You mention GAC use while using the (DPD) testing procedure to establish the ~ 0.005 mg/l dosing rate using an ozone generator (this should be incredibly helpful for anyone wanting to utilize ozone safely in their system, and almost would have certainly saved me from disaster in 2013). Assuming testing is executed properly, does the hobbyist need to continue GAC use on the outlet of reactor/skimmer once the SS dosing rate has been established and testing is complete?

2) Are there any known references that may help describe specific results that a hobbyist could expect to see in their system at the ~ 0.005 mg/l ozone dosing rate?

3) In your opinion, is there any opportunity for ozone to replace the use of GAC (for the purpose of water clarity or toxin (from allelopathy or otherwise) removal)?

4) I have always assumed that a proper air dryer on the inlet is required in order to reliably maintain a consistent ozone generator output - do you generally agree with this, or is there some flexibility with dryer implementation?

5) As someone who has worked in the public aquarium/aquarium trade sector for a substantial amount of time (and understanding that a response here would not be taken as promotion); is there a brand of ozone generator (that offers affordable, hobbyist-size units) that you find are being utilized in professional/commercial/public settings most frequently? If there isn't a clear answer the question, could you simply tell us what brands you see most frequently used in your line of work?

~ Best Regards

1) I only would use GAC as a "safety net" for excess ozone, proper dosing should be determined so that it isn't needed. Public aquarium systems are so large, that carbon use would be cost prohibitive, so they rely on careful dosing. For example, at my last facility we had two ORP controllers, with different set points and different locations in the system (at the effluent of the skimmer and then at the return from the system).

2) Sorry, I don't know of any

3) We use ozone instead of carbon on our main systems. We don't use carbon due to its cost, and its ability to cause HLLE in some fish species.

4) We use air dryer on all of of our ozone systems. If I recall, if moisture is already to enter the production chamber, nitric acids are produced.

5) All but one of our ozone units were designed and installed by engineering contractors. I've only bought a small Poseidon 200 unit off Amazon to run in a small system, so I can't really speak to different brands. I think we replaced it twice in about 8 years.
 
Wouldn't using a UV combo that produces both ozone and UVC not be a safer application since it only produces ozone when on and dissipates that's produced thereby reducing use of GAC? Assuming 100% dissipated then need for ORP monitoring as means of control no longer needed and plugging the air inlet makes this effectively UV only, if needed.

Less complex than running corona discharge into ozone ready skimmer or reactor.

Not sure one needs to polish the water prior to passing by UV since ozone is oxidizing particulate matter which based on article still needs to be mechanically removed or can that just be allowed to decompose?

AQUAUV OZONE COMBO.JPG

Love the theory here. Is there any published data/info on a setup like this? (dissipation vs flow rate + wattage)?

I assume when you say "dissipated" you are talking about the O3. Are potentially harmful oxidants also dissipated with this setup?
 
1) I only would use GAC as a "safety net" for excess ozone, proper dosing should be determined so that it isn't needed. Public aquarium systems are so large, that carbon use would be cost prohibitive, so they rely on careful dosing. For example, at my last facility we had two ORP controllers, with different set points and different locations in the system (at the effluent of the skimmer and then at the return from the system).

2) Sorry, I don't know of any

3) We use ozone instead of carbon on our main systems. We don't use carbon due to its cost, and its ability to cause HLLE in some fish species.

4) We use air dryer on all of of our ozone systems. If I recall, if moisture is already to enter the production chamber, nitric acids are produced.

5) All but one of our ozone units were designed and installed by engineering contractors. I've only bought a small Poseidon 200 unit off Amazon to run in a small system, so I can't really speak to different brands. I think we replaced it twice in about 8 years.

All very helpful Jay! Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply (and again, for writing this article).
 
Wouldn't using a UV combo that produces both ozone and UVC not be a safer application since it only produces ozone when on and dissipates that's produced thereby reducing use of GAC? Assuming 100% dissipated then need for ORP monitoring as means of control no longer needed and plugging the air inlet makes this effectively UV only, if needed.

Less complex than running corona discharge into ozone ready skimmer or reactor.

Not sure one needs to polish the water prior to passing by UV since ozone is oxidizing particulate matter which based on article still needs to be mechanically removed or can that just be allowed to decompose?

AQUAUV OZONE COMBO.JPG

Your talking about the Aqua UV/Ozone unit? I've never worked with those. Does it produce ozone from the UV light? If so, then that is like the "photozone" unit I used back in the early 1980's. We ran those units 24/7 with no controller, but I'm not sure if that was risky or not. I dimly recall that the company selling those units said that they produced other oxidizers as well as some ozone, but I'm not sure of the chemistry involved.
 
Love the theory here. Is there any published data/info on a setup like this? (dissipation vs flow rate + wattage)?

I assume when you say "dissipated" you are talking about the O3. Are potentially harmful oxidants also dissipated with this setup?
Been trying to find that data myself and speaking with the manufacturer of this unit was confusing as he recommended pluming post UV.

My understanding is that UVC creates hydroxyl radicals (OH) on contacting ozone and peroxide which dissipates both by decomposing them.

Seems these units as setup will produce a limited amount of ozone yet fully dissipate that produced. Best I could decipher from their manual. At some point I'm going to test this out in a test tank and monitor ORP as well as the air above the tank with commercially available monitors. Going to also test for OPO to see if it dissipates that without using GAC.

Added benefit with OH in that it converts ammonia to nitrates therefore might have an added application in QT where necessity might not allow ample time to get nitrification going although not sure how this affects copper or other medications and might either convert them or nullify them but for those who practice TTM might be an option as one can avoid constant transfers and ran 100% of the time might kill pathogens during the stage where they are vulnerable. Another area where testing needed because can't find this application in use. I plan to test it with an undergravel filter as it will best draw as many pathogens as possible in my estimation.
 
@Jay Hemdal - sorry, 2 more questions!

1) What is the estimated dose (mg/l) at current/previous facility(ies)?
2) What were the ORP setpoints used?

I'm not sure of the dose, it varies depending on the load in the system. ORP setpoints were different, depending on the location of the probe in the system. Also, ORP change is really the key, not the actual number. So - to set the ORP probe for water returning to the system, we would let it run without ozone to get a baseline, and then set the ORP probe for +20 mv above that point. For the ORP probe further upstream, the setpoint might be +50mv or even higher.
 
Your talking about the Aqua UV/Ozone unit? I've never worked with those. Does it produce ozone from the UV light? If so, then that is like the "photozone" unit I used back in the early 1980's. We ran those units 24/7 with no controller, but I'm not sure if that was risky or not. I dimly recall that the company selling those units said that they produced other oxidizers as well as some ozone, but I'm not sure of the chemistry involved.
Yes Aqua UV.

As I understand it. The housing is larger to allow air to pass by UVA creating the ozone then injected via venturi upstream where it then passes UVC and dissipated. Uses low vapor lamps.

As I grasp UV rays. This is how nature cleanses pollution in our atmosphere.

Haven't read anything about other oxidizers which means it might.
 
Are potentially harmful oxidants also dissipated with this setup?
I'm hoping that's the case but haven't been able to confirm or deny. Testing will hopefully shed some light on that which can be tested. Your mileage may vary...
 
Seems these units as setup will produce a limited amount of ozone yet fully dissipate that produced. Best I could decipher from their manual. At some point I'm going to test this out in a test tank and monitor ORP as well as the air above the tank with commercially available monitors.
Will be keeping my eye out for this - would love to see the results. Curious about the O3 dosing rate..


Going to also test for OPO to see if it dissipates that without using GAC.
This would be key... interested enough to see if I can find any published paper with similar work/testing

Added benefit with OH in that it converts ammonia to nitrates therefore might have an added application in QT where necessity might not allow ample time to get nitrification going although not sure how this affects copper or other medications and might either convert them or nullify them but for those who practice TTM might be an option as one can avoid constant transfers and ran 100% of the time might kill pathogens during the stage where they are vulnerable.
Another area where testing needed because can't find this application in use. I plan to test it with an undergravel filter as it will best draw as many pathogens as possible in my estimation.
Both would be very cool applications.

I'm hoping that's the case but haven't been able to confirm or deny. Testing will hopefully shed some light on that which can be tested. Your mileage may vary...
Excited to see...

I actually ran a DIY version of this using a (18 or 24 W maybe?) a cheap Coralife UV sterilizer. Drilled a couple holes through the housing and used air line and an air pump to push air from the far end of the quartz sleeve across the bulb and out to the skimmer (maybe also a Coralife 220 model? lol). I liked this setup as I didn't have to fiddle with an air dryer (no electrodes to corrode), no controller, no GAC (the sniff test said it wasn't particularly 'strong')... I recall it keeping the water clear, but uncertain about benefits/damage beyond that...
 
I liked this setup as I didn't have to fiddle with an air dryer (no electrodes to corrode), no controller, no GAC (the sniff test said it wasn't particularly 'strong')... I recall it keeping the water clear, but uncertain about benefits/damage beyond that...
Yet you were able to smell some remnants? Was hoping the UVC dissipated all ozone produced.
 
Yet you were able to smell some remnants? Was hoping the UVC dissipated all ozone produced.

Let me clarify - I could smell ozone exiting the quartz sleeve. I did NOT have it pass back through the water-side of the sterilizer unit, as described/per your diagram/discussion. It went straight from the (dry side of the) quartz sleeve teed directly to the air inlet of the skimmer.

My setup was basically N/A compared to what you are describing in the AquaUV system here.

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@GARRIGA - found this while I was sniffing around. Probably already came across it, and unfortunately I could not find any references in the article. (Even better, the author is marketing admin for a ozone equipment manufacturer). None-the-less, perhaps will shed a bit more light on the UV/Ozone combo efficacy... The article does list author's contact info who could possibly provide references....

Forgive me for the kindergarten-level question: would the creation of OH radicals translate to a change in alkalinity in our system?

"The Ozone/UV Combination", Couch, Ben, 28, Sep. 2021. WaterWorld Magazine.

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Also, from:
"Combining Ozone with UV: Advanced Oxidation Process for Swimming Pool Applications", Legrini, Omar, Ph.D, and Lesznik, Gaspar. 15, Jun. 2000. Water Conditioning & Purification International Magazine.

See Study Here

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... and perhaps the most valuable part...

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