Reef Elixer From Ocean Art Usa (Red Flags)

[Jonathan.Grego]

Recently just purchased reef elixir from Oceanartsusa and I’m having some red flags the label looks to be very stretched and poor quality compared to the over seas brand. Also it smells like fruit juice or some kind of cough medicine anyone use this stuff and order from the site

 

[RoanokeReef]

I don't use it, but my LFS sells it, and a few locals use it and like it. I don't use it as I like to control what goes in my tank vs dumping Bacteria, Amino Acids and such into my tank as they aren't all used in equal parts. Also the product description reminds me of that Simpsons episode where they were selling the All In One miracle cure.

 

[Jonathan.Grego]

I don't use it, but my LFS sells it, and a few locals use it and like it. I don't use it as I like to control what goes in my tank vs dumping Bacteria, Amino Acids and such into my tank as they aren't all used in equal parts. Also the product description reminds me of that Simpsons episode where they were selling the All In One miracle cure.

Do the labels look all blurry and blown up almost looks like someone copied the label from over seas blew it up and threw it on a bottle also the email and phone are for the over seas brand and you can barley read it since it’s so blown up and idk why it smells like cough medicine nothing in this hobby ever smells fruity to be it’s giving me red flags

 

[RoanokeReef]

I don't recall, but https://oceanartusa.com/ is the US distributor.

 

[Jonathan.Grego]

I don't recall, but https://oceanartusa.com/ is the US distributor.

That’s who I got it from what’s the local store that uses it maybe I can call them if you have there name

 

[ReneReef]

The label looks just as shabby over here and the promises on there are just as ludicrous.

It was all the rage a few years ago here in The Netherlands. It's a Dutch brand, we were "lucky" to see it in the shops first...
Among my local reefing friends we jokingly call it Reefing Red Bull, because of the sweet smell...

It has crashed many a tank. If you like your Acropora, stay well clear of this stuff.
There are few people that had succes with it and that still like it. Those people are keeping softies, shrooms and some LPS.

Closest comparable product is probably the Fauna Marin all in one solution.
It's likely based on calcium acetate with an unknown amount of unknown other stuff thrown in, with unknown effectiveness. All wrapped in a cloud of unrealistic promises.

As you might have guessed by now, it's not my cup of tea. ;)

 

[Jonathan.Grego]

That’s who I got it from

The label looks just as shabby over here and the promises on there are just as ludicrous.

It was all the rage a few years ago here in The Netherlands. It's a Dutch brand, we were "lucky" to see it in the shops first...
Among my local reefing friends we jokingly call it Reefing Red Bull, because of the sweet smell...

It has crashed many a tank. If you like your Acropora, stay well clear of this stuff.
There are few people that had succes with it and that still like it. Those people are keeping softies, shrooms and some LPS.

Closest comparable product is probably the Fauna Marin all in one solution.
It's likely based on calcium acetate with an unknown amount of unknown other stuff thrown in, with unknown effectiveness.

Okay Iv been using all for reef currently was gonna try this

 

[ReneReef]

Okay Iv been using all for reef currently was gonna try this

I would stick with AFR.
That is based on calcium formate, totally different beast.

 

[Jonathan.Grego]

I would stick with AFR.
That is based on calcium formate, totally different beast.

Yeah iv been dosing AFR with Ab+

 

[Jonathan.Grego]

The label looks just as shabby over here and the promises on there are just as ludicrous.

It was all the rage a few years ago here in The Netherlands. It's a Dutch brand, we were "lucky" to see it in the shops first...
Among my local reefing friends we jokingly call it Reefing Red Bull, because of the sweet smell...

It has crashed many a tank. If you like your Acropora, stay well clear of this stuff.
There are few people that had succes with it and that still like it. Those people are keeping softies, shrooms and some LPS.

Closest comparable product is probably the Fauna Marin all in one solution.
It's likely based on calcium acetate with an unknown amount of unknown other stuff thrown in, with unknown effectiveness. All wrapped in a cloud of unrealistic promises.

As you might have guessed by now, it's not my cup of tea.

Has it crashed your tank?

 

[ReneReef]

Has it crashed your tank?

No, I wasn't caught by the hype.
But several friends have had their tanks practically wiped out.
So, at that point I didn't feel like joining the wreckage...

Yeah iv been dosing AFR with Ab+

Is there a specific reason you use the AB+?

 

[Jonathan.Grego]

No, I wasn't caught by the hype.
But several friends have had their tanks practically wiped out.
So, at that point I didn't feel like joining the wreckage...


Is there a specific reason you use the AB+?

Aminos

 

[Jonathan.Grego]

No, I wasn't caught by the hype.
But several friends have had their tanks practically wiped out.
So, at that point I didn't feel like joining the wreckage...


Is there a specific reason you use the AB+?

Amino

 

[RoanokeReef]

@Jonathan.Grego LFS labels are also blurry

 

[ReneReef]

Aminos

Hi, sorry to have left you hanging...

Reason I asked was some people use it as a means to provide an extra Nitrogen source when experiencing low nitrate.

If that was the case with you, choosing a product with substantial build in carbon dosing would have been an even worse idea.

Off topic: If you aks me, adding aminos with some useless fluorescent dye just to add aminos is a waist of money. Get some fish, feed them and let that feed your corals.
It has not been shown that corals and/or their symbionts are able to effectively uptake aminos from the water column and if the concentrations we dose does anything. It seems far more likely that solid food particles provides aminos to corals. There is some evidence that free aminos may contribute to dysbiosis of bacteria (making bacteria turning against corals).