SPS growth vs color

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Hmmmm that does make sense. But I dose 10 ml Red Sea aminos weekly.

Maybe could do more. But wondering if the water is too polished. Need some nice particulates for those polyps to munch on.
It looks like you’re doing great at growing corals! It would be interesting if it is growing skeleton faster than tissue. It’s like translucent in these photos
 
I would throw some carbon in to see if it's possibly not liking what another coral is putting off. Seems you have a wide variety of dinner guests sitting at that table. ? Just a thought.
 
Maybe could do more. But wondering if the water is too polished. Need some nice particulates for those polyps to munch on.
It looks like you’re doing great at growing corals! It would be interesting if it is growing skeleton faster than tissue. It’s like translucent in these photos
I agree with you on the tissue it does look translucent. I might try the captiv8 invigor8 picoplankton
 
I would throw some carbon in to see if it's possibly not liking what another coral is putting off. Seems you have a wide variety of dinner guests sitting at that table. ? Just a thought.
I run carbon passively. Maybe time to change it
 
My first guess would be the system is nitrogen limited. .08 no3 is low, which can be fine, but not if you have a low fish load and feeding. If pale acros are a trend it is likely nitrogen deficiency, add fish, add nitrate, daily dose ammonium bicarbonate…. and a little reef roids bumping up po4 from time to time will help. This would likely fix the issue fast.

Secondly, you didn’t mention low iron and manganese on your ICP but I’m sure it is. Everyone’s is lol. Daily additions will help corals gain zoox and improve health.

Last but not least, if that’s the only problem child, it could very well be bugs. White, black, red etc. check in the dark with a flash light to see if anything crawling on it.

Getting it into lower light temporarily will
Help darken it up if it indeed nutrient related.

That’s all I got! Good luck!
 
My first guess would be the system is nitrogen limited. .08 no3 is low, which can be fine, but not if you have a low fish load and feeding. If pale acros are a trend it is likely nitrogen deficiency, add fish, add nitrate, daily dose ammonium bicarbonate…. and a little reef roids bumping up po4 from time to time will help. This would likely fix the issue fast.

Secondly, you didn’t mention low iron and manganese on your ICP but I’m sure it is. Everyone’s is lol. Daily additions will help corals gain zoox and improve health.

Last but not least, if that’s the only problem child, it could very well be bugs. White, black, red etc. check in the dark with a flash light to see if anything crawling on it.

Getting it into lower light temporarily will
Help darken it up if it indeed nutrient related.

That’s all I got! Good luck!
I do dose Ammonium Bicarbonate (1.5 ml 3x daily) and phosphates. Also feeding heavy fish and corals.

The Icp says iron is slightly elevated at 4.23 µg/l and manganese is right at .22 µg/l.

I’ll check for any bugs since this is the only one looking like this.
 
I do dose Ammonium Bicarbonate (1.5 ml 3x daily) and phosphates. Also feeding heavy fish and corals.

The Icp says iron is slightly elevated at 4.23 µg/l and manganese is right at .22 µg/l.

I’ll check for any bugs since this is the only one looking like this.

What’s the water volume? Whats your fish load? Your nitrates are less than 1ppm. It’s likely not enough ammonia or bioload. Feeding will pollute the tank but doesn’t add nitrogen the way fish will.

Are you dosing cheato grow or an iron additive? Curious how iron got so high. .22 manganese is low. You would benefit from additions.

Another thing, your spectrum looks very white. If so, lowering the intensity on the white channel will help improve color.
 
What’s the water volume? Whats your fish load? Your nitrates are less than 1ppm. It’s likely not enough ammonia or bioload. Feeding will pollute the tank but doesn’t add nitrogen the way fish will.

Are you dosing cheato grow or an iron additive? Curious how iron got so high. .22 manganese is low. You would benefit from additions.

Another thing, your spectrum looks very white. If so, lowering the intensity on the white channel will help improve color.
Tank is an IM 25 lagoon. 2 clowns, six line, lawnmower blenny, and a black Molly. Peppermint shrimp and a bunch of snails I’m very limited due to tank size but the wrasse is doing extremely well and has been for a year.

I do add individual traces and will add more manganese.

Lighting I have a g4 xr30 @ 50% for 12 hours. I took the picture with an orange filter. At peak intensity it’s only running cool white @ 38% and UV, Violet, royal and blue are @ 100% all day
 
Even at 50% your are probably smoking corals with a g4 on a nano tank. I remember not being able to pass 75% on a much larger tank without color fading. I would suggest reducing the white channel down even more and shorten its duration. Since you’re running uln parameters, I don’t think a pair of cardinals would hurt ;)
 
I think that coral is not getting enough light. The corals around it are all species that generally take lower light than acropora and they seem fine.
 
Even at 50% your are probably smoking corals with a g4 on a nano tank. I remember not being able to pass 75% on a much larger tank without color fading. I would suggest reducing the white channel down even more and shorten its duration. Since you’re running uln parameters, I don’t think a pair of cardinals would hurt ;)
I think that coral is not getting enough light. The corals around it are all species that generally take lower light than acropora and they seem fine.
To be honest everything in the tank is getting blasted by lighting and flow. Only things that don’t get high flow are a 21 tails and a HG in a corner. They’ve all acclimated to it, I have the xr30 perpendicular to the with of the tank so all my acro’s except this one are down the middle of the tank. Anything that “needs lower light” I have off to the sides where they don’t get the direct light. I even have a mushroom right next to a Walt Disney and it loves it lol
 
Update on the mini colony. It’s looking better since I took the Kalk drip offline. Got a little more diligent with my captiv8 trace program also
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Update on the mini colony. It’s looking better since I took the Kalk drip offline. Got a little more diligent with my captiv8 trace program also
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Looks great! How do you find the captiv8 protocol? I was looking into it and might go for that instead of moonshine.
 
Looks great! How do you find the captiv8 protocol? I was looking into it and might go for that instead of moonshine.
I was actually considering the RMM so I purchased their ICP-MS. Got the results back and only needed some elements, 5 if I remember correctly, so I bought the captiv8 elements since they were cheaper. I ended up sending the Icp to them and Chris the owner and head chemist sent me a VERY detailed analysis and I ended up buying all the elements for around $250. Way under the $600 start up from RMM. I’m in now way bashing RMM since I only have limited experience with them, just the price, customer service, and the fact the products work is way more than I need to be satisfied with a company.
 

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