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Another day, another "problem"....

This morning i noticed one small red dot on sand. Bright red, like brick color.

This evening, sand is covered with this growth. I have cyano, and this growth only where cyano is on sand. Cyano have gazilion bubbles.....

Like coraline, just bright red color, pics are bad, but maybe someone have idea, i newer seen anything like this....

Thanx!

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Another day, another "problem"....

This morning i noticed one small red dot on sand. Bright red, like brick color.

This evening, sand is covered with this growth. I have cyano, and this growth only where cyano is on sand. Cyano have gazilion bubbles.....

Like coraline, just bright red color, pics are bad, but maybe someone have idea, i newer seen anything like this....

Thanx!

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Pictures are extremely dark but may be cyano bacteria
To confirm, please post pics under white lighting
 
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Thank you.

It IS cyano on sand, slowly going away, this thing is ON cyano, and appear from nothing and spread in one day.

So, maybe its just another shade of cyano ;)

This is best i can take picture, hope it helps....
 

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Looks like dinos out competing your cyano.
In your last two pictures you can see at the top, you already have dinos. The dark brown slimy looking stuff. The cyano was keeping it from covering all the substrate. Now the dinos are over taking your cyano, the dying cyano is the orange part, the brown part in the middle of the orange is where the dinos now occupy that space.
 

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Thank you.

It IS cyano on sand, slowly going away, this thing is ON cyano, and appear from nothing and spread in one day.

So, maybe its just another shade of cyano ;)

This is best i can take picture, hope it helps....
Could it be another type of cyano? In my qt I have 3 different colours of cyano. One bright red like yours, another dark brown almost black and another blue/green. But they tend to grow in their own patch, never seen one type over the other type.

Edit: suck some of the stuff with a turkey baster and check if it’s solid like coralline or mushy?
 
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So, whole gang is in my tank.... ;)

I will vacuum it tomorrow, sure, fascinating that this morning these bright red spots non existed, and now..... Wow....

So, this all confirmed my toughts.... I need to raise nutrients
 

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So, whole gang is in my tank.... ;)

I will vacuum it tomorrow, sure, fascinating that this morning these bright red spots non existed, and now..... Wow....
In two days you probably wont have cyano anymore and just dinos unfortunately.
 

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So, whole gang is in my tank.... ;)

I will vacuum it tomorrow, sure, fascinating that this morning these bright red spots non existed, and now..... Wow....

So, this all confirmed my toughts.... I need to raise nutrients
I recommend manual removal at the minimum, reduced lighting will also help. You need to ID what type of dinos you have to properly treat them.
 
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Well, i will write that as a victory... ;)

Go away you ugly cyano, dinos welcome.. ;)

Now u made me think....leave it, not vacuum, just to see what happens next. All corals seems great, so..... Hmm....
 

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You have a chance to get ahead of it now, do not waste this chance. Dinos grow so fast and once they start growing on your rocks and corals, you will start to take losses fast.
 
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Thanx, i will vacuum it in morning.

But, i always tougjt that one cannot beat dinos simply by vaccuming?
 

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Thanx, i will vacuum it in morning.

But, i always tougjt that one cannot beat dinos simply by vaccuming?
Of course not, but manual removal greatly slows them down. And stops them from reaching your corals so fast.
 

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Thanx, i will vacuum it in morning.

But, i always tougjt that one cannot beat dinos simply by vaccuming?
When I had dinos I had to siphon every single day for weeks to stop it from reaching my corals, along with blowing them off with a turkey baster every day.
 
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And what was ultimate solution to get rid of them?

Raise no3/po4?

Also, did you vaccum in filter sock, or complete with throwing water and replace with new?
 

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And what was ultimate solution to get rid of them?

Raise no3/po4?

Also, did you vaccum in filter sock, or complete with throwing water and replace with new?
With a filter sock to put the water back into the aquarium is best.

Your solution would depend on what species of dinos you have, this can only be achieved by microscope. I bought a cheap kids one from Kohls, anything with a 40x magnification will work fine. Bring nutrients up to detectable range, preferably 5-10 ppm nitrate and .1 phosphate or so. Dosing microbacter 7 has been known to help. I dosed nitrates, microbacter 7, and silicates every day in my tank. I also had a UV filter to help fight them. Lowering your photoperiod to 4-5 hours a day will help alot as well. But for ultimate victory you will have to ID what type it is.
 
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Yes i already looked to buy microscope....

I have uv lamp, so only thing that is left is to vacuum it, clean sand that i vacuum....

As for light period..... Wouldnt there be negative impact for corals... Few big colonies of euphilias, torch and calustreas are primary concern.....
 

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Yes i already looked to buy microscope....

I have uv lamp, so only thing that is left is to vacuum it, clean sand that i vacuum....

As for light period..... Wouldnt there be negative impact for corals... Few big colonies of euphilias, torch and calustreas are primary concern.....
I have torches, hammers, acros, frogs, zoas,mushrooms, all across the board. They dont like the shorter photoperiod, but it buys you time and its enough light to sustain life for them.
 
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Ok, thanx for your help, in the morning battle beggins, i will inform whats happening...
 

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Also remember, all of these species of corals live in places that massive storms block out the sun for days. Even a total blackout for a few days wont kill them. It will tick them off, but they wont die.
 

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