Sucess With Achilles Tangs

[blackgrouper79]

I recently purchased a similar tricky tang the gold rim. The purchase came from a lfs that holds its stock in hyper salinity drastically reducing parasite infection. Also I'm a big believer of letting the fish fight the disease rather than chemicals.

Buy a fat healthy specimen that is feeding. Then reduce the stress when introducing, also feed the best quality food. Mines on live my sis and brine plus nori and red macro algea. Fat healthy and no ich.

how high do they keep the salinity?

 

[Woolleson]

They have their fish in 1.009 salinity

 

[SeaDweller]

I recently purchased a similar tricky tang the gold rim. The purchase came from a lfs that holds its stock in hyper salinity drastically reducing parasite infection. Also I'm a big believer of letting the fish fight the disease rather than chemicals.

Buy a fat healthy specimen that is feeding. Then reduce the stress when introducing, also feed the best quality food. Mines on live my sis and brine plus nori and red macro algea. Fat healthy and no ich.

I think you mean hypo*

 

[Woolleson]

I think you mean hypo*

Lol.... I meant hypo but spell check had other ideas

 

[Dreadnaught]

AT has been extremely aggressive towards M. Foxface. I'm starting to get worried about MF health as he no longer eats much do to the persistent AT. I added a mirror and its definitely caught AT attention and allow MF to eat. I'm thinking of adding a couple more Tangs (Purple and Chevron) to spread the aggression. Any thoughts? I feed 4+ times a day and maintain 2-3 Algae sheets in multiple places and it has not helped the AT aggression. (245G DT with very few fish).

 

[Humblefish]

@Dreadnaught I would remove the Achilles for a week or so, add your other tangs and then put him back in. That way he's the newcomer.

 

[Dreadnaught]

Humble.... I'm purchasing the 2 tangs from another reefer. They appear to be in good health although I have not seen him. I prefer to be cautious and was planning on your full QT procedure. (I set up a second 20G Fish QT today). Do you think the QT period can be shortened since they appear in good health and coming from the same tank? I was thinking they might be good candidates for TTM in 5G buckets.

The other caveat is it possible to catch the AT... Fast little Mother ****.

 

[4FordFamily]

@Dreadnaught I would remove the Achilles for a week or so, add your other tangs and then put him back in. That way he's the newcomer.

X2

 

[Brian Kim]

I once bought and treated an Achilles, about 2.25" only to sell it to a friend with a larger tank. He still text message me every time he adds new fish to his tank to remind me how this Achilles is an *&^%$

 

[4FordFamily]

Humble.... I'm purchasing the 2 tangs from another reefer. They appear to be in good health although I have not seen him. I prefer to be cautious and was planning on your full QT procedure. (I set up a second 20G Fish QT today). Do you think the QT period can be shortened since they appear in good health and coming from the same tank? I was thinking they might be good candidates for TTM in 5G buckets.

The other caveat is it possible to catch the AT... Fast little Mother ****.

Definitely quarantine and be safe. Achilles are the most fragile of all tanks and by far the most susceptible.

 

[4FordFamily]

I actually have two Achilles together in a tank full of other tangs. One is much smaller, the larger one is a cyclops (lost an eye to infection). With them is a powder blue and powder brown. I don't recommend anyone try this but it's pretty neat. I had a solid plan B if it didn't work out. They've been happily cohabitating now for over a month.

I still think the key to breaking rules with tangs is to have a bunch of them and overfeed the crap out of them. Oh and maintaining a disease free environment because otherwise they'll just grenade eachother.

 

[Brian Kim]

Kinda makes me wonder, are sohal more aggressive than achilles? Would be interesting to add a sohal to lower achilles aggression

 

[Brian Kim]

or they could fight to death... but I've seen 2 of them together on a lfs and they were actually getting along well

 

[Dreadnaught]

10-4. That was what I thought the correct answers was 4Ford

 

[Dreadnaught]

My AT and MF were getting along great the first couple weeks. MF was added first but now that AT settled-in he has become very aggressive.

 

[Humblefish]

I was thinking they might be good candidates for TTM in 5G buckets.

This would be a good plan. Also dose Prazipro during transfers 2 & 4 in order to deworm. Observe for just 2 weeks, post TTM, to ensure velvet or brook doesn't rear it's ugly head.

 

[4FordFamily]

Kinda makes me wonder, are sohal more aggressive than achilles? Would be interesting to add a sohal to lower achilles aggression

I have a sohal with my Achilles. My powder blue dominates the snot out of the sohal despite the sohal being an inch or two larger. My Achilles are typically not that aggressive with more aggressive fish present. Powder blues are the nastiest tangs by sheer proportion of evil fish and type of aggression and factoring in also how they don't seem to forgive and forget like other tangs - a personal vendetta stays personal even if split up for months.

 

[4FordFamily]

Also my MF is very docile. I've had her a couple years and she keeps her hiding/sleeping "plumage" most of the day because she hides. Very tragic because they're gorgeous when they get comfortable. Her tankmates don't bother her at all I think she's just shy, everyone gives her space, even the 6" Emperor angel tank boss keeps his distance. It's in my large angel tank and the angels leave it alone. The only tangs with it are a yellow belly hippo and a clown tang, the rest are angels and wrasse.

 

[SeaDweller]

Kinda makes me wonder, are sohal more aggressive than achilles? Would be interesting to add a sohal to lower achilles aggression

I have both. My sohal is nowhere near aggressive as the Achilles that's half its size!!!