Tank suggesting

[berihra]

So I have an establish freshwater tank, and now I would like to start a saltwater ( no experience) someone is selling me the below tank for 300, with everything that’s on the picture.

65 Gallon Aqueon rimless cube tank
AI prime 16 light
syche silent 3.0 pump
division 500 protein skimmer
2 AI prime Nero 3 wave makers
10 gallon eshopps sump

What else would I need ; should I go for this or just get an AIO?

 

[Abominable Snow Crab]

Seems like a nice little set up for the $$ but I would want to verify the stand is safe

 

[Fish Fan]

So I have an establish freshwater tank, and now I would like to start a saltwater ( no experience) someone is selling me the below tank for 300, with everything that’s on the picture.

65 Gallon Aqueon rimless cube tank
AI prime 16 light
syche silent 3.0 pump
division 500 protein skimmer
2 AI prime Nero 3 wave makers
10 gallon eshopps sump

What else would I need ; should I go for this or just get an AIO?

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

#WelcometoR2R

I agree with the above reply, it's a decent setup, but I have never seen an aquarium stand on casters

In a perfect world, $300 for this setup isn't bad, perhaps it's even a very good deal compared to what everything cost brand new, and if you feel comfortable with it, I'd say go for it. But from experience on both sides of the transaction, I can say it is very difficult to sell a used aquarium system. I might offer this seller $200, and they'd likely jump on it as they've likely had relatively little interest otherwise.

I have a couple thoughts that I hope will be helpful

It's a nice cube tank with good dimensions. If your plan is to have corals, I do think you'll need to upgrade that light. I don't believe a single AI Prime 16 can grow much over a 65 cube.

I am not trying to talk you out of this because it's likely a decent deal for what you'd be getting, but I would also not hesitate to suggest an AIO tank. They are easier to manage because you simply can't add every piece of gear under the sun, and they don't ever leak, unless there's a serious issues.

I hope that helps, and please post back with any questions you may have

Good luck!

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

I agree you will need to upgrade the light, I have AI Prime on a 15 gallon, its just not made for a 65 gallon tank.

Personally I think its a good deal for the price, but you'll need to drop another couple hundred on a new light - unless you just want a fish only tank in that case the light will work for that purpose.

But even if you do buy a new light, its still a great price overall. Where I live, one nero 3 alone costs $300.

 

[Gumbies R Us]

I would get a new stand just to be safe!

 

[Freenow54]

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

#WelcometoR2R

I agree with the above reply, it's a decent setup, but I have never seen an aquarium stand on casters

In a perfect world, $300 for this setup isn't bad, perhaps it's even a very good deal compared to what everything cost brand new, and if you feel comfortable with it, I'd say go for it. But from experience on both sides of the transaction, I can say it is very difficult to sell a used aquarium system. I might offer this seller $200, and they'd likely jump on it as they've likely had relatively little interest otherwise.

I have a couple thoughts that I hope will be helpful

It's a nice cube tank with good dimensions. If your plan is to have corals, I do think you'll need to upgrade that light. I don't believe a single AI Prime 16 can grow much over a 65 cube.

I am not trying to talk you out of this because it's likely a decent deal for what you'd be getting, but I would also not hesitate to suggest an AIO tank. They are easier to manage because you simply can't add every piece of gear under the sun, and they don't ever leak, unless there's a serious issues.

I hope that helps, and please post back with any questions you may have

Good luck!

I am of the same mind regarding the castors . Maybe lift it up to keep the castors and make a strong surround around the entire bottom . Cool looking set up but you might find the light is not enough for growing Coral because of the depth. Sorry I did not see Mojo Risings reply . So I am just a repeat

 

[MC Blowfish]

That stand looks dicey. I wouldn't feel comfortable with an aquarium on wheels.

 

[BryanM]

Another downvote for casters, especially if you're in earthquake country.

Also, 65 calls of salt water weighs around 550 pounds. That's another reason to get it firmly planted to the floor.

 

[mmorrison55]

Those casters are heavy duty. Alufab offers a similar caster as an upgrade. I have them on my 180 gallon system.

They are not usually kept with the weight on the wheel. They have adjustable feet on the inside that raise the wheels just off the ground so there is no rolling. Most have a very good weight rating per caster. It of course like all things, product quality can vary by maker.

They are similar in style to these…


Amazon product

If you watch any tidal garden videos, you will see that Than uses many Alufab stands and these casters on his large frag tanks. The wheel is just intended to get the aquarium where it’s needed and then you raise the foot to take the weight of the stand and tank.

 

[Freenow54]

I cannot believe that I have seen a castor that with a small lever lifts any kind of weight they just lock the wheels. You would need an appropriate jack. Like all things you are free to do what you want

 

[Fish Fan]

Those casters are heavy duty. Alufab offers a similar caster as an upgrade. I have them on my 180 gallon system.

They are not usually kept with the weight on the wheel. They have adjustable feet on the inside that raise the wheels just off the ground so there is no rolling. Most have a very good weight rating per caster. It of course like all things, product quality can vary by maker.

They are similar in style to these…


Amazon product

If you watch any tidal garden videos, you will see that Than uses many Alufab stands and these casters on his large frag tanks. The wheel is just intended to get the aquarium where it’s needed and then you raise the foot to take the weight of the stand and tank.

I have heavy duty casters on some of my workshop machines, so I fully agree that some casters could support the weight of a tank, but I still say that I've personally never seen casters on a fish tank before. What is the benefit, do you find that you have to move the tank frequently enough to need the casters? I would assume you'd have to lower the water level enough so that it wouldn't just slosh all over when moved?

 

[Freenow54]

I thought not to get rid of the castors but to also use a better to me method of support. The only remote chance to use the castors which would have come in handy for me was a flooded basement due to a failed sump pump for my home to move it around while you fixed the floor ect

 

[mmorrison55]

I have heavy duty casters on some of my workshop machines, so I fully agree that some casters could support the weight of a tank, but I still say that I've personally never seen casters on a fish tank before. What is the benefit, do you find that you have to move the tank frequently enough to need the casters? I would assume you'd have to lower the water level enough so that it wouldn't just slosh all over when moved?

Ive only used them when initially moving it into its final resting place. It was handy for me because my sump is in a different room directly behind my display, and it was useful to pull the display from the wall to get the plumbing lined up.

Unless I have plumbing issues, I don’t ever see the need to use the wheels again unless I tear the tank down for a move or something.

But your assumption is correct, if needed, I would lower the water a bit, to avoid sloshing. My eurobracing should also help with the water movement.

In some of the videos I have seen from Tidal gardens, it did appear that they would move their wheeled tanks around from time to time. I don’t recall if they were completely empty though. It’s been a while since I watched the videos.

 

[Fish Fan]

In some of the videos I have seen from Tidal gardens, it did appear that they would move their wheeled tanks around from time to time. I don’t recall if they were completely empty though. It’s been a while since I watched the videos.

Come to think of it, I think you're right that Tidal Gardens does this on at least some of their tanks.

 

[mmorrison55]

Come to think of it, I think you're right that Tidal Gardens does this on at least some of their thanks.

Yep… I think he recently won the lottery or something because he upgraded most if not alk of his big frag tanks to reef savvy tanks with alufab stands. And they have those castors on many of them.

If I ever get back to Ohio, I’d love to take a side trip and visit his set up.

 

[Idech]

I think it’s a very good price and a nice starter system. If you don’t like it, then you haven’t lost too much money and if you do, you’ll want a bigger, better tank later but can resell it.

I agree you will need to upgrade the light, I have AI Prime on a 15 gallon, its just not made for a 65 gallon tank.

Just buy a second one. I have 4 of them on my 120 gallons.

 

[berihra]

Thank you all for all the input, I when ahead and got the tank. Got everything thing ready rodi system set up and making water…currently working on my aquascape

 

[berihra]

I feel like is missing something… maybe more rock? Or taller ?