The dark hobby

[PeterEde]

Anyone seen this show?
Talks of using needle to puncture swing bladders of deep living fish?
How much of this show is true?

 

[Shon]

No, have not seen the show. But I assume your referring to barotrauma.

When a fish is caught from deeper water, they will sometimes bloat. The fish, if it is to be released, to have a chance of survival needs to be "vented". Otherwise they will float on the surface and die. Once vented, they have a higher survival, can swim back down to the depths.. if it avoids being eaten in transit..

https://myfwc.com/fishing/saltwater/outreach/barotrauma/

 

[ShakeyGizzard]

Florida makes it a requirement to have a venting tool and dehooking tool when fishing off shore. If you fish in water over 50 to 60 feet they may need venting when released.

 

[JayM]

Anyone seen this show?
Talks of using needle to puncture swing bladders of deep living fish?
How much of this show is true?

I don't know how much of the show is true. I haven't seen it, and won't if I have to pay. Judging solely off of the bios of most of the people involved, and what PETA has to say about the film, my guess is very little is true in the way that it is presented to the viewer.

 

[Gill the 3rd]

Is that the documentary where the trailer was saying how many saltwater fish were being dying in the hobby, but then showing pictures of discus as examples?

 

[MnFish1]

Its pretty common when deep water fish are caught to vent them so they can be sold (alive)

 

[Townes_Van_Camp]

Every time I hook a bonnethead shark I cross my fingers and hope he/she can get back under water. Same with puffers. It's why I don't fish a lot anymore.

 

[ShakeyGizzard]

Every time I hook a bonnethead shark I cross my fingers and hope he/she can get back under water. Same with puffers. It's why I don't fish a lot anymore.

most bonnet head sharks live in bays or nearshore. I for one am an avid saltwater fisherman. I release what's not wanted and adhere to all fishing regulations. I don't fish for sport. I fish for groceries. let the hate posts begin

 

[Townes_Van_Camp]

most bonnet head sharks live in bays or nearshore. I for one am an avid saltwater fisherman. I release what's not wanted and adhere to all fishing regulations. I don't fish for sport. I fish for groceries. let the hate posts begin

Well I fish the intercoastal waterway and little jetty's in Jacksonville. Lots of bonnetheads, lots.

I put everything back, except legal reds and flounder. But I have no problem with it if you don't.

 

[KrisReef]

Anyone seen this show?
Talks of using needle to puncture swing bladders of deep living fish?
How much of this show is true?

Divers who are targeting deep water fishes often have equipment to bring the fish up slowly to avoid buoyancy issues that will kill deep water fishes if they are brought up too fast. Poking holes in valuable aquarium fishes is anti productive for fishes that are destined for sale to live fisheries. Dead fishes are not very valuable for live fisheries purposes.

You can still make a filet from a fresh caught deep water fish but the value is much less than the living Aquarium fish that divers target.

 

[ShakeyGizzard]

Well I fish the intercoastal waterway and little jetty's in Jacksonville. Lots of bonnetheads, lots.

I put everything back, except legal reds and flounder. But I have no problem with it if you don't.

I will say, cooked delicately, bonnet head shark is good eating

 

[Grog]

I am an avid fisherman as well as keeping tanks. It is common for deeper water fish that are brought to the surface to have distended swim bladders. If you release them as-is, they are doomed. So, the common practice is to puncture the swim bladder prior to release. Mortality rate is still high IMO, and it is not unusual for a dolphin or shark to get an easy meal immediately after release.

Makes me sad to release a slightly undersized red snapper, only to see it become shark food. So, I tend to not target red snapper.

 

[Townes_Van_Camp]

I will say, cooked delicately, bonnet head shark is good eating

Really?

 

[ShakeyGizzard]

Really?

Black tip same way, best sharks to eat. anything over 3 feet I throw back, 2 1/2 to 3 feet is best. Cook it like a thin chicken breast. let the hate posts begin

 

[PeterEde]

I don't know how much of the show is true. I haven't seen it, and won't if I have to pay. Judging solely off of the bios of most of the people involved, and what PETA has to say about the film, my guess is very little is true in the way that it is presented to the viewer.

Yes typically these shows interview extremists with no real idea. It did show one fish having its swim bladder vented at depth.
Later in the show it stated this procedure was banned as were many processes in catching fish.

 

[PeterErc]

I have not seen the show. Is it entertaining?

Descending devices are another option instead of venting. I prefer to vent if the fish still has some fight left. Sharks are no joke in the area. Descending device is the dinner bell. Sometimes it’s hard enough to land a fish before the sharks get it.

I have no shame in venting a legal sized fish with a gaff.

 

[PeterEde]

I have not seen the show. Is it entertaining?

Descending devices are another option instead of venting. I prefer to vent if the fish still has some fight left. Sharks are no joke in the area. Descending device is the dinner bell. Sometimes it’s hard enough to land a fish before the sharks get it.

I have no shame in venting a legal sized fish with a gaff.

but that is not going into any aquarium

 

[PeterErc]

but that is not going into any aquarium

That’s right, it’s going in my belly

 

[PeterEde]

I have not seen the show. Is it entertaining?

Descending devices are another option instead of venting. I prefer to vent if the fish still has some fight left. Sharks are no joke in the area. Descending device is the dinner bell. Sometimes it’s hard enough to land a fish before the sharks get it.

I have no shame in venting a legal sized fish with a gaff.

More annoying and probably well out dated and full of crap

 

[robbyg]

Divers who are targeting deep water fishes often have equipment to bring the fish up slowly to avoid buoyancy issues that will kill deep water fishes if they are brought up too fast. Poking holes in valuable aquarium fishes is anti productive for fishes that are destined for sale to live fisheries. Dead fishes are not very valuable for live fisheries purposes.

You can still make a filet from a fresh caught deep water fish but the value is much less than the living Aquarium fish that divers target.

I actually built a small DIY decompression device that I could carry when diving. I would bring up Black Cap Basslets from around 90ft of water when on vacation. It worked really well for years, I use to have around 6 of them in my tank.

I would slowly decompress them over a 30 minute period after I reached back to the boat.
Survival rate was about 90%.