The Wrasse Lover's Thread!

BrunoArrojado · Mar 9, 2015

eatbreakfast said:
Actually the black spots are ocelli that younger fish have up to 3 and 2 go away as they mature and H. claudia can have one in the middle of the dorsal as males. The best way to tell if one is transitioning into a male is if there is color on the caudal fin. Females have a translucent caudal fin, once it begins to develop color and patterning it has begun its transition into becoming a male.

Both photos are of males.

Hello!

This is what I really have in quarantine..

And

If the only difference between male and female its color of the Caudal fin..and not the Black Eyes...Can the transition to male be reverse ?

Thank you :)

eatbreakfast · Mar 9, 2015

H. claudia when a tranitional male will have multiple ocelli and will not lose it until transition is complete, that is why tail color and pattern are better indiators of gender at that stage of maturity.

Reversal from male back to female is possible from transitional and initial phase males and not terminal males. Though it is more likely aggression from the dominant fish leads to death or serious injury to the submissive rather than gender reversal.

BrunoArrojado · Mar 9, 2015

eatbreakfast said:
H. claudia when a tranitional male will have multiple ocelli and will not lose it until transition is complete, that is why tail color and pattern are better indiators of gender at that stage of maturity.

Reversal from male back to female is possible from transitional and initial phase males and not terminal males. Though it is more likely aggression from the dominant fish leads to death or serious injury to the submissive rather than gender reversal.

Hello,

Since they are in a small tank atm (QT), its better do introduce the small first into the DT? Then the bigger one after? :)

Thank you!!

ifarmer · Mar 9, 2015

BryanB said:
Here are 2 pics of my blue star leopard wrasse I love her looks and personality I may get another because I have the room.

nice. I am looking to add one of these guys to my tank aslo. does anyone know can these fish live in a sandless tank?

eatbreakfast · Mar 9, 2015

BrunoArrojado said:
Hello,

Since they are in a small tank atm (QT), its better do introduce the small first into the DT? Then the bigger one after? :)

Thank you!!

It can help but may not eliminate all or any of the aggression. In some instances they can coexist, in others they cannot. If you do add them both to the same tank just have a contingency plan for removing one if necessary.

ifarmer said:
nice. I am looking to add one of these guys to my tank aslo. does anyone know can these fish live in a sandless tank?

While it is possible for them to live in a sandless tank, it is better for their long term well being to have, at the very least, a small tupperware of sand. Macropharyngodon are difficult in even the best of circumstances, so why make them more difficult by not providing sand for them to sleep in?

BrunoArrojado · Mar 9, 2015

Hello,

eatbreakfest, later will take better photos with the tail colors, so you can help me, if the are both male or If will have troubles with them.

Thank you :)

rboutin111 · Mar 9, 2015

I picked up this beautiful Carpenter Flasher Wrasse at my LFS on Friday. He's eating great and getting along well with my two Leopard Wrasses.

BrunoArrojado · Mar 9, 2015

BrunoArrojado said:
Hello,

Since they are in a small tank atm (QT), its better do introduce the small first into the DT? Then the bigger one after? :)

Thank you!!

Helloo!!

Well, I just made a video, can you check it, please? What do you think?

[video=youtube;ux194JihLB0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux194JihLB0[/video]

Thank you!!

eatbreakfast · Mar 9, 2015

BrunoArrojado said:
Helloo!!

Well, I just made a video, can you check it, please? What do you think?

[video=youtube;ux194JihLB0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux194JihLB0[/video]

Thank you!!

You have 2 male H. claudia wrasses and unless the DT is a much larger tank Im afraid you are in for a lot more of the same.

BrunoArrojado · Mar 9, 2015

eatbreakfast said:
You have 2 male H. claudia wrasses and unless the DT is a much larger tank Im afraid you are in for a lot more of the same.

Really? Two males, omg. My DT is a 120g..do you think is enough? There are no chances about reversing process from male/female ?

BrunoArrojado · Mar 9, 2015

BrunoArrojado said:
Really? Two males, omg. My DT is a 120g..do you think is enough? There are no chances about reversing process from male/female ?

I Have a friend that can trade with me he have one Claudia too, its smaller than mines, here is the picture..still a female? :)

BrunoArrojado · Mar 9, 2015

BrunoArrojado said:
I Have a friend that can trade with me he have one Claudia too, its smaller than mines, here is the picture..still a female? :)

Another one...

eatbreakfast · Mar 9, 2015

^Unfortunately the above pics are showing a transitional male as well, though if it is smaller than your submissive one there is a chance it wont be viewed as an imminent threat to your dominant fish's position.

BrunoArrojado · Mar 9, 2015

Yes, but I the chances are better to this one, its smaller, and its not a male yet. If were you, what do you think? Should I trade it with the other one? thank you :)

eatbreakfast · Mar 10, 2015

BrunoArrojado said:
Yes, but I the chances are better to this one, its smaller, and its not a male yet. If were you, what do you think? Should I trade it with the other one? thank you :)

Personally, I would trade it for a different species of wrasse. That is the way to have the least amount of aggression, and even then individuals are more or less aggressive than others, but the more closely related 2 specimens are, the more they view each other as competition for resources.

BrunoArrojado · Mar 10, 2015

eatbreakfast said:
Personally, I would trade it for a different species of wrasse. That is the way to have the least amount of aggression, and even then individuals are more or less aggressive than others, but the more closely related 2 specimens are, the more they view each other as competition for resources.

Hello, yes I understand, but unfortunately the only option I have now is to trade with the smaller one...well, seems that ill have to trade it...