Thoughts on this Bta
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A newly cycled tank is not ideal for anemones. Based on the question I’m assuming you are newer to the hobby.
Your tank will be going through a lot of changes both naturally as the system matures, and through your inputs and mistakes as you learn. Anemones require stability above all else. The price in the nem seems fine. But if I was in your shoes, which I have been, I’d hold off for a while.
Your tank will be going through a lot of changes both naturally as the system matures, and through your inputs and mistakes as you learn. Anemones require stability above all else. The price in the nem seems fine. But if I was in your shoes, which I have been, I’d hold off for a while.
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Thanks for the reply-Tank has been stable for about 5 weeks after cycle "finished". Inhabitants so far 2 davinci clowns 5 trochus snails and a small gsp. would this bta not survive?
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Ruby slippers?
I love this post, but the only shoes I share are bowling shoes.
Great advice, -shoes perhaps?
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Older tanks have better performance on average.
The clownfish are fine for a long time without a nem in the tank.
6 months is the commonly tossed around timeline. However, it really is all about stability and to some extent experience. A hobbyist with lots of experience in your shoes might be able to make it work. But even then most would wait.
In your case, I’d just wait. Nems will always be on the market. Your tank is *just* beginning its life and will go through a lot of stuff in the coming months. 5 weeks seems like a long time but in this hobby 2 years is considered barely matured generally haha.
I mean the rubies are plastic cause we both know we spent the money that could have been used on real rubies on this hobby lolRuby slippers?
I love this post, but the only shoes I share are bowling shoes.
Great advice, -shoes perhaps?
There are a number of great easy to care for corals that could scratch that itch.
Euphyllia (Hammers, frogspawn etc.) are great options. Avoid torches as they can be finicky in a young tank.
Duncan coral- hardy and thrive under a lot of lighting levels.
Green Star Polyps (GSP)- super easy and grows fast. Ensure to isolate on a rock island if you do get these. They will encrust the rock work and take over if on the main structure. Very hard to remove.
Pipe organ- same rules as GSP
Xenia- Same rules as above
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I get that clowns dont need an anenome,but my daughter wants one, i already have a small gsp! if i where to buy this bta what are the chances of survival? Im patient but i really dont want to wait 6-24 months
Hard to give a %. It’s likely not going to die immediately or anything. The chances of it dying at some point are just higher due to the inherent instability of a new tank. So it could be fine for a month, then suddenly blow up (and depending on its size and how quickly you catch it, and nuke your system). Or it could live for the lifetime of the tank. It’s just a risk and if you’re willing to take it I’m definitely not going to judge.
Also, there is a good likelihood your clowns won’t end up being hosted by a BTA as it is not a nem they naturally inhabit so keep that in mind. They may take to it or never lol my occelaris clowns ignored mine for years and never gave it a glance. My Clarkiis went into the nem in their tank day 1 as it is a natural host for them.
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So my takeaway from this and numerous hours of researching and other forum threads,is that there is no definitive answer, 50/50 if you will.I think i am going to purchase and see how it goes,im sure if i keep on top of fluctuations and water parameters it surely gives me a fighting chance.thanks for the advice apart from the ruby shoe stuff (i didnt get it)
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That's common. Most people are not comfortable in my shoes, whilst I deparately struggle with some analogies that contain the phrase, "if I was in your shoes" - which the other poster used when answering the question.
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Can you post an image of your tank? Seeing what the tank currently looks like might improve folks estimate accuracy for nem survival.
It will either thrive or die, which on the surface is a 50:50 estimate that really carries zero weight in useful space. I understand you want to add one now, so from a picture we might get to see how algae and rocks and substraight all look currently.
Some of the reef folks who look at posts on here have been looking at other peoples tanks for 20 or 30 years, and they can better read the health status of a system from an image.
No one has yet mentioned that a nem requires a proper light source to be happy and thrive. A picture might show the light source that people could recognize, or they might just read the image as suggested above and again improve the answer.
The one image you did post shows a discounted BTA, price seems reasonable but the question I have is this a clone of the nem that is partially visible in the same image? I like the other one better, but lighting and image saturation make photographs more challenging to read. So if you do post an image of your tank I would suggest that the lights are set on a white spectrum to improve results.
It's just a nem, but it would be a shame to get it without proper equipment to insure long term health and avoid having your family watching it wither and die.
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The rule that I suggest for those who aren't sure if their tank is ready to house an anemone or not is to look for the presence of coralline algae. If it's growing in your tank, then the tank is most likely ready for an anemone.
It's typically the last type of algae to appear--after what many people call "the ugly stage" where simpler forms of algae run rampant--and is a good indicator that the tank 1) has ample light for an anemone and 2) is not experiencing fluctuations that normally occur with newer tanks (such as swings with nitrate, nitrite and phosphate), because coralline likes a stable environment.
By following this rule, you don't have to worry about timing so to speak, in terms of how many days or months you need to wait.
It's typically the last type of algae to appear--after what many people call "the ugly stage" where simpler forms of algae run rampant--and is a good indicator that the tank 1) has ample light for an anemone and 2) is not experiencing fluctuations that normally occur with newer tanks (such as swings with nitrate, nitrite and phosphate), because coralline likes a stable environment.
By following this rule, you don't have to worry about timing so to speak, in terms of how many days or months you need to wait.
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