Transfer cycled tank to a new RedSea 170

[mariano]

Good afternoon. so a few weeks ago we fell in love with Red Sea and decided to go for the 170 since we live in a 3rd floor apartment. Back home ( which is 15 mins away) we have our tank which is a cheap aqueous 55 gallons (and canister filter) with real live rock ( some inverts like emerald crabs, pistol shrimps, feather dusters, brittle star that came inside the rocks we bought) 2 clown fish, two cardinal and a very small yellow tang, 5 corals and also sand.
The tank arrives on Friday , and we going to the LFS to buy more water. so here is my question. will the tank needs to cycle again or can I just transfer everything to the new tank the same day?
any help will be appreciated.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

 

[brandon429]

yes its easy to skip cycles totally nowadays. read this thread if you want to do it perfectly.


*its 33 pages lol, so to condense down to 25 mins that w save your tank, read all of post 1

and then skip to last 2 pages, read all links.

every job in this thread is your job in some manner:

Official Sand Rinse and Tank Transfer thread

If you are reading this thread to cure a tank invasion from a link I sent you, we do not need to identify your type of invasion here we do not need you to test anything at anytime regarding nitrate, phosphate etc Above all, we do not need to see a microscope slide picture of your invasion at...

www.reef2reef.com

your issue is one of how to not move detritus in the rocks or sand over to the new tank, that's specifically what we practice over and over there.

take pics

don't buy bottled bacteria, we use real skip cycle science to earn our skip cycles. post your updated work on the last page pls so a thousand people can apply it.

 

[mariano]

ugh 33 pages lolol. Thanks you, i will, but which thread?

 

[brandon429]

edited in above. read just first post 1 in that link then skip last two pages for sure that w capture your job coming up

 

[mariano]

Thanks a bunch brandon

 

[brandon429]

yes for sure and we really want your updated work details, this surgery is worth thousands of dollars literally/not killing stuff, then add in the pet factor and we're dealing in priceless disassembly and reassembly techniques.

there is indeed 5 or ten ways to move reefs, but we think there's only 1 way which works 100% of the time~thats cloudless transfer of rocks and sand.

whats fascinating is its the exact same steps whether we disassemble to upgrade, move, rip out cyano or diatoms, its all the same move set. you are either re assembling it back in the same space it was, or a heckuva lateral move lol but same assembly steps tank to tank, job to job, all the same.

 

[brandon429]

*right when they're all at the takedown stage: corals in buckets, rocks in other buckets, fish in buckets that's when we move to new place. the reassembly steps and full bed pre rinse, whether new or old sand using tap water specifically, happens before setup at the new place.

 

[mariano]

Hey @brandon429 im Currently reading your thread ( im actually reading everything because is really interesting, but I need clarification, when you say "***Rinse your sandbed using a garden hose and buckets outside until the water is perfectly, not partially, cloud free" do I rinse it with just regular tap water ?
by the way, this is the sand we bought when we first got the tank. but is im understanding by reading the thread, we should clean it before moving it to the new tank to get rid of all the detritus in the sand.

 

[brandon429]

100% yes that’s the sand I have too, it rinses clean after some work using tap. Forget the included packet, pre rinse.

*the clouding we see in reefs using that sand takes two forms: out of the bag, there’s no animal waste. That’s silt- broken down sand fraction that we initially rinse

That sand doesn’t produce nitrate it’s neutral...its sand + their proprietary bac mix (just like everyone has their brand of bottle bac, they‘ve added it to the bag)

rinsing in tap doesn’t sterilize sand. A lab tech or a clinician cannot sterilize a steel table by wiping it down with tap water, no biofilm is cut by tap water and a paper towel...we make use of real world microbiology to start clean. The hobby thinks tap water is the universal sterilizer (but not hobbyists who are clinicians)


the initial clouding is only silt (which fuels early diatoms, we are starting clean) but after two years it’s silt+ animal waste portion mixed


every tank in that thread is responding to clouding in only those two forms, pretty neat pattern.