tropic marin synbio activ salt

Nmaran72 · Nov 26, 2020

anyone using the new tropic marin syn bio activ salt. I currently use tropic marin pro. any pros or cons

Ron Reefman · Dec 24, 2020

Randy Holmes-Farley · Dec 24, 2020

I personally wouldn't use it (or any mix with organic matter) since I like to store my salt water, and a mix with organics in it has the likelihood of bacteria growing on those organics. if not kept aerated, it might even begin to produce hydrogen sulfide. In this case they even add the bacteria to drive that process even faster.

Tropic Marin® Syn-Biotic Meersalz

Das neue Syn-Biotic Meersalz für Fisch- und Korallenaquarien. Enthält probiotische Bakterien & prebiotische Zusätze. Ideal bei Neueinrichtung und Neubesatz.

www.tropic-marin.com

User1 · Dec 24, 2020

Randy Holmes-Farley said:
I personally wouldn't use it (or any mix with organic matter) since I like to store my salt water, and a mix with organics in it has the likelihood of bacteria growing on those organics.

This is correct. If you make up a batch and store or do auto water changes then this isn't the salt for that job. I've watched a few of Lou's talks on the differences between the salts and he also mentions about storage vs immediate use.

I use the bio actif mix and it is amazing. Mixes really quick, clear, and no residue. However, I'll be switching to the classic or pro as I noticed my nutrients, specifically nitrates, bottoming out. Either related to the bio actif mix or all for reef. Is it better than say IO or RC I do not know but I've had good luck with it. Premium price tag though.

Uncle99 · Dec 24, 2020

The stuff is $190 a bucket in Canada.
I had to take another look...yup....$190
LOL.
Salt is salt.
What additive increases price twice....
Great marketing though...

User1 · Dec 25, 2020

Uncle99 said:
The stuff is $190 a bucket in Canada.
I had to take another look...yup....$190
LOL.
Salt is salt.
What additive increases price twice....
Great marketing though...

I don't know what makes it cost twice as much. Marketing or not it is similar to Acropora. Acropora is acropora yet people pay $500 or more for a 1" frag....

So not sure what the point is really. Hobbyist have to choose is all.

Reef. · Dec 25, 2020

Nmaran72 said:
anyone using the new tropic marin syn bio activ salt. I currently use tropic marin pro. any pros or cons

the instructions say not to store it, so if you like to make your salt in advance and store then I think you can buy the syn bio separately and add to their standard salt just before adding to the tank?

CMMorgan · Dec 31, 2020

Looking into using this to set up the new build. I'll be carrying over some of the existing tank water, live rock, etc...
Given the existing tank has high nitrates currently, I figure that I can either add additives when I make the switch or go with this. I doubt that I would stay with this long term. I use two little fishies and love it. I need to make 100 gallons of salt water.... so..... here goes nothing... hoping it will make a smoother transition for all inhabitants and set the new tank up for success.

vetteguy53081 · Dec 31, 2020

CMMorgan said:
Looking into using this to set up the new build. I'll be carrying over some of the existing tank water, live rock, etc...
Given the existing tank has high nitrates currently, I figure that I can either add additives when I make the switch or go with this. I doubt that I would stay with this long term. I use two little fishies and love it. I need to make 100 gallons of salt water.... so..... here goes nothing... hoping it will make a smoother transition for all inhabitants and set the new tank up for success.

You'll like it. I have two buckets here for a reason. It mixes easily and results are great

CMMorgan · Dec 31, 2020

vetteguy53081 said:
You'll like it. I have two buckets here for a reason. It mixes easily and results are great

Appreciate the endorsement! I still have one $10 BRS coupon left.... gonna need salt sooner than later, so why not save a few bucks.

vetteguy53081 · Dec 31, 2020

CMMorgan said:
Appreciate the endorsement! I still have one $10 BRS coupon left.... gonna need salt sooner than later, so why not save a few bucks.

Note the coupon ends in 5 hours

CMMorgan · Dec 31, 2020

vetteguy53081 said:
Note the coupon ends in 5 hours

They are out of stock on the 80 gallon. I'd have to jump in and get the 200 gallon. I would have to store the other 50 and use as I go for WC. Have you had any issues with shelf life?

vetteguy53081 · Dec 31, 2020

CMMorgan said:
They are out of stock on the 80 gallon. I'd have to jump in and get the 200 gallon. I would have to store the other 50 and use as I go for WC. Have you had any issues with shelf life?

No. I opened up a bucket recently that I have had for 10 months and nice and powdery. It help that TM puts in in a heavy duty bag with a reusable zip tie for freshness.

Reef. · Dec 31, 2020

CMMorgan said:
Looking into using this to set up the new build. I'll be carrying over some of the existing tank water, live rock, etc...
Given the existing tank has high nitrates currently, I figure that I can either add additives when I make the switch or go with this. I doubt that I would stay with this long term. I use two little fishies and love it. I need to make 100 gallons of salt water.... so..... here goes nothing... hoping it will make a smoother transition for all inhabitants and set the new tank up for success.

why would you use water you know is high in nitrates in a new tank?

CMMorgan · Dec 31, 2020

vetteguy53081 said:
No. I opened up a bucket recently that I have had for 10 months and nice and powdery. It help that TM puts in in a heavy duty bag with a reusable zip tie for freshness.

Awesome! Thanks again!! I used to use Fritz and that stuff just settled into a bunch of clumps... and turned by mixing buckets brown. Good to know this is a solid, stable product. Happy a safe and blessed NYE!!

CMMorgan · Dec 31, 2020

Reef. said:
why would you use water you know is high in nitrates in a new tank?

The water is a symptom, not the source. Nitrates are hovering at about 20. I would say that the source is in the existing sand (which will not convey) or the live rock - which may for whatever reason be devoid of suitable amounts of nitrifying bacteria. The goal of carrying some of the water, in addition to the live rock, etc. is to reduce stress and cycling in moving from tank A to tank B.
I've upsized tanks twice now and I was always advised to transfer as much water, etc. as possible. I'm going against that logic to a degree here by only moving 1/3... but (inclusive of the sump) that is still 50 gallons. We'll see how it goes. Some of the existing will go into holding buckets, as livestock and rock are transferred. This is still a working plan in progress.
I've ordered the Syn-Biotic Sea Salt to reinforce that bacteria and give the rock a leg up once transferred.

Uncle99 · Dec 31, 2020

Very little value IMO in transferring water, the magic is on hard surfaces.
I didn’t use a drop on my last transfer.

vetteguy53081 · Dec 31, 2020

CMMorgan said:
The water is a symptom, not the source. Nitrates are hovering at about 20. I would say that the source is in the existing sand (which will not convey) or the live rock - which may for whatever reason be devoid of suitable amounts of nitrifying bacteria. The goal of carrying some of the water, in addition to the live rock, etc. is to reduce stress and cycling in moving from tank A to tank B.
I've upsized tanks twice now and I was always advised to transfer as much water, etc. as possible. I'm going against that logic to a degree here by only moving 1/3... but (inclusive of the sump) that is still 50 gallons. We'll see how it goes. Some of the existing will go into holding buckets, as livestock and rock are transferred. This is still a working plan in progress.
I've ordered the Syn-Biotic Sea Salt to reinforce that bacteria and give the rock a leg up once transferred.

Add some chemiPure elite. It will reduce any chance of toxins and keep the phos and nitrate levels in check