Upgrading an SPS tank

[ReefHunter006]

Hi Everyone!

So I got approval to finally upgrade to a 180 gallon. It hit me this morning that I want to avoid bringing over the vermitide snails that aggravate me in the current tank. That means it becomes a challenge to seed the new tank.

How would you go about upgrading your sps tank? I have about 150 lbs of live rock but it is has those dreaded snails. What would the community do?

 

[brandon429]

It can’t be done, move over anyway.

 

[ReefHunter006]

It can’t be done, move over anyway.

Apologies, the upgrade or the avoiding verms?

 

[brandon429]

Verms and I know that sounds like a killjoy lol but I don’t believe anyone in reefing can beat them, it works just like how deep sandbeds work. A handful of users prescribe the method to literally everyone but after everyone tries it, outcomes range wildly.

I try to ignore mine though theyre poky, make each water change a snot net etc lol

 

[brandon429]

Hey if you don’t have a set plan already we would like to run your move job remotely to guarantee no loss


we meaning a huge group of online nerds who move and upgrade reefs using skip cycle biology. We have an order of ops for takedown and reassembly which for fifty pages has total success and no re cycles. If you already have a plan then forgive the intrusion lol all the pages are made from these job solicitation posts lol.

 

[ReefHunter006]

Hey if you don’t have a set plan already we would like to run your move job remotely to guarantee no loss


we meaning a huge group of online nerds who move and upgrade reefs using skip cycle biology. We have an order of ops for takedown and reassembly which for fifty pages has total success and no re cycles. If you already have a plan then forgive the intrusion lol all the pages are made from these job solicitation posts lol.

I am on day one of drafting the plan. Certainly interesting in hearing more.

 

[ReefHunter006]

Verms and I know that sounds like a killjoy lol but I don’t believe anyone in reefing can beat them, it works just like how deep sandbeds work. A handful of users prescribe the method to literally everyone but after everyone tries it, outcomes range wildly.

I try to ignore mine though theyre poky, make each water change a snot net etc lol

I agree, i can’t think of a tank I’ve ever owned without them. The more I think about it the more I realize thousands in sps is not worth risking for verms. You agree?

 

[brandon429]

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/official-sand-rinse-and-tank-transfer-thread.230281/

main summary though it can’t replace seeing nuance patterns in their example links:

-tap water made all that possible. Tap rinse your old sand, tap rinse your new sand, that’s fifty pages of the exact same set of moves on every tank though they may show up for a move, an upgrade, a sand swap, a sand removal, a cyano or dinos beat down. If you use something other than tap water, bad things happen at the rate of 1 per ten jobs but right there with tap is 200+ jobs and no examples of fail.



(Not a scare tactic= tap is limitless clean rinse. when they use ro or saltwater as the rinse they run out early, leave a cloud, and get a cycle. Tap is endless it’s why we use it)


tap water is the most important part of the whole thread and every job is the same disassemble reassemble step, absolutely does not vary job to job, the reasons for rip cleaning are what vary.

- drop the light levels in the new tank don’t run same intensity. We robbed all the organics so that your recycle can’t occur, the tradeoff is we run low lights and ramp back up slowly. Bleach prevention, feed nicely in the new tank, target feed to coax out corals they’ll transfer fine.

- dont use bottle bac or prime at any step

-your rocks are cleaned in old tank water to jet them free of waste. Your sand is blasted with tap because we don’t care about nor need to preserve sandbed bacteria in any reef tank says the fifty page thread of patterns. The world has it wrong regarding sandbed bacteria and we fixed it.

i agree we cannot beat verms they simply win. There’s medication that kills them but not in my reef, I let them stay. Don’t want the meds

 

[dieselkeeper]

Congrats on your up grade. I keep a bunch of bubble bee snails in my tank to keep down the population of vermetid snails. I don't see any, but there are plenty under the rocks. When I pick one up and look under it. They will never eradicate them. As long as they are out of sight, out of mind. Looking forward to following your up grade.