Vodka dosing

[scotty333]

Would dosing vodka stop calcification uptake?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Would dosing vodka stop calcification uptake?

It should not unless you drove nutrients too low for corals.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

It will reduce pH which will reduce demand for calcium and alk.

 

[scotty333]

It should not unless you drove nutrients too low for corals.

Went from 13-9 and probably 5 tomorrow

 

[scotty333]

It will reduce pH which will reduce demand for calcium and alk.

Hmm yeah didn’t think of that

 

[scotty333]

Right again boss
Ph 8.1 down from 8.35

 

[DeepSea1]

Right again boss
Ph 8.1 down from 8.35

Interesting, I dose ammonia bi-carb and use Vodka to keep the nitrates in check, my PH has remained constant. Granted I have only been dosing Vodka for 8weeks.

 

[scotty333]

Every system reacts differently but my doses were big at 8ml per 100 ltr whereas previously it was dosed with my ato at 1ml per day so ph never shifted
It’s only getting 13ppm I wanted to bring it down to 5 that I dosed big not realising the impact
Oh well , lesson learnt
Ph is creeping up now so will check kh tomorrow see if it’s dropping

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Interesting, I dose ammonia bi-carb and use Vodka to keep the nitrates in check, my PH has remained constant. Granted I have only been dosing Vodka for 8weeks.

The CO2 produced tends to lower pH. The extent of the effect depends on many factors, including the amount used and the extent of tank aeration.

 

[scotty333]

The CO2 produced tends to lower pH. The extent of the effect depends on many factors, including the amount used and the extent of tank aeration.

Also I guess lowering my nitrates will raise kh

 

[DeepSea1]

Every system reacts differently but my doses were big at 8ml per 100 ltr whereas previously it was dosed with my ato at 1ml per day so ph never shifted
It’s only getting 13ppm I wanted to bring it down to 5 that I dosed big not realising the impact
Oh well , lesson learnt
Ph is creeping up now so will check kh tomorrow see if it’s dropping

I am dosing 5ML for 450l. Thanks for the info good to know.

 

[GARRIGA]

Totally ignore the fact my overdosing of NoPox may have contributed to my low pH :thinking-face:

 

[scotty333]

I believe vinegar is the worst culprit

 

[scotty333]

I am dosing 5ML for 450l. Thanks for the info good to know.

Yeah that’s a maintenance dose , I stopped dosing 6 weeks ago and my nitrates wouldn’t rise above 0.5 which was borderline dino territory so I started dosing a little no3 but then it’s not stabilising instead rises more than I’d like

 

[GARRIGA]

I believe vinegar is the worst culprit

If memory serves me right. NoPox being a mixture of vinegar and vodka or something similar perhaps contributes less acid then similar dosage of straight vinegar to effect same carbon load to drop nitrates. No clue how vodka affects carbonates and might be wrong on the that and typically beyond the weeds I normally dig into. Fact it works tends to be enough for me.

Randy,

Is the vodka a sugar or something else in NoPox? Now I'm curious although mostly to avoid passing along nonsense.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

If memory serves me right. NoPox being a mixture of vinegar and vodka or something similar perhaps contributes less acid then similar dosage of straight vinegar to effect same carbon load to drop nitrates. No clue how vodka affects carbonates and might be wrong on the that and typically beyond the weeds I normally dig into. Fact it works tends to be enough for me.

Randy,

Is the vodka a sugar or something else in NoPox? Now I'm curious although mostly to avoid passing along nonsense.

Nopox is partly ethanol (as in vodka) and partly acetic acid (the ingredient in vinegar). It has much lower amounts of ethanol and isopropanol, probably there to denature the ethanol and render it undrinkable and untaxable.

In the end, all of it can end up as CO2. Vinegar just puts the pH drop up front and ethanol is more later.

 

[GARRIGA]

Nopox is partly ethanol (as in vodka) and partly acetic acid (the ingredient in vinegar). It has much lower amounts of ethanol and isopropanol, probably there to denature the ethanol and render it undrinkable and untaxable.

In the end, all of it can end up as CO2. Vinegar just puts the pH drop up front and ethanol is more later.

Am I correct in assuming sugar dosing then same affect as ethanol or does fermenting change the amount of carbon added and/or later affect on co2? Always wondered why some dosed sugar direct.