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I use a BRS titanium heater which does not have a thermostat, so I rely on the Inkbird to keep it at the appropriate temp. I then use the Apex temp probe as a failsafe to keep the Inkbird in check. On my other tank (connected to same Apex) I run a similar setup, but there I use an Eheim Jager heater which has it's own thermostat, connected again to an Inkbird, connected to the EB832. It's all about the redundancy in temp probes to prevent the heater from nuking the tank. If a heater fails or runs too high, I get alerts. I also run the temps in Celsius as that provides more granular control in the devices.Thx for the reply. It seems a lot are using the inkbird controllers. Why not just use the apex to control the heaters?