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I use All For Reef approx 2x a week. No issues with any other corals, everything has remained vibrant and is growing

I broadcast feed 3-4x a week a mix of amino acids, mysis, and some powdered foods (benereef, goniopower, and something else I forget)

If anyones mouth is open they get target fed with a baster. The rest of the mix gets dumped in front of a mp40 and then feed mode on the return for 10-15 min
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Y'all have reminded me, I'm currently negotiating for a large batch of broodstock Cynarina to restart the spawning project! The batch should arrive in the spring, but I will keep everyone posted both here and in the project thread :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:
 

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I am really thinking of changing the direction one of my tanks in to an meat coral tank.
was gonna do seahorse witch I have wanted to do for years but if I am honest this sounds better. differently more colorful!

where is the place to get your meats these days?
 

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I am really thinking of changing the direction one of my tanks in to an meat coral tank.
was gonna do seahorse witch I have wanted to do for years but if I am honest this sounds better. differently more colorful!

where is the place to get your meats these days?
World Wide Coral, Top Shelf Aquatics
 
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I am really thinking of changing the direction one of my tanks in to an meat coral tank.
was gonna do seahorse witch I have wanted to do for years but if I am honest this sounds better. differently more colorful!

where is the place to get your meats these days?
For color, BSA. for affordability, Corals.com or AquaSD. They are going to be expensive no matter where you shop, unfortunately.
 
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For color, BSA. for affordability, Corals.com or AquaSD. They are going to be expensive no matter where you shop, unfortunately.
Adding to this, both the best and worst prices I have seen for meat corals have been in my LFSs, so never forget to shop around locally. Sometimes more stick oriented shops will get them in and sell them cheap.
 

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are there any fish to stay away from with meats? I mean reef safe fish. are there some prone to nip.

I am a big fan of wrasses so there will be a few of those for sure. bit wonder about the sand sleeping wrasses, guessing they will get sand all over the meats?
 
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are there any fish to stay away from with meats? I mean reef safe fish. are there some prone to nip.

I am a big fan of wrasses so there will be a few of those for sure. bit wonder about the sand sleeping wrasses, guessing they will get sand all over the meats?
The biggest consideration is that meats are slow eaters, so any hungry fish (tangs, wrasses, damsels, gobies) will investigate and likely try to steal food from their mouths. Powder foods help with this, but they'll still be at risk of being robbed. It's best to feed them at lights out or during a large fish feeding.
For acanthos and indos, a little sand isn't a huge problem. Both are sand dwelling in situ. Cynarina are rock/cave dwellers and may have some trouble with sand IME. They tend to wither long-term on the sandbed too.
 

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The biggest consideration is that meats are slow eaters, so any hungry fish (tangs, wrasses, damsels, gobies) will investigate and likely try to steal food from their mouths. Powder foods help with this, but they'll still be at risk of being robbed. It's best to feed them at lights out or during a large fish feeding.
For acanthos and indos, a little sand isn't a huge problem. Both are sand dwelling in situ. Cynarina are rock/cave dwellers and may have some trouble with sand IME. They tend to wither long-term on the sandbed too.
perfect thanks for the info!
so if I am understanding this correct and sorry if this has been answered before but cynarina can only ( or best) be kept on the rocks, while acanthos are best on the sand bed but can be on rocks too?


yes that is how I feed my trackys ans wellso when I had them seems to work out great.
 
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perfect thanks for the info!
so if I am understanding this correct and sorry if this has been answered before but cynarina can only ( or best) be kept on the rocks, while acanthos are best on the sand bed but can be on rocks too?


yes that is how I feed my trackys ans wellso when I had them seems to work out great.
Pretty much. In my experience, Acanthos don't like being on the rocks or having their mantles unsupported. Same deal with indos. Cynarina will spread like Indos on the sand, but long term they tend to wither when not in the open or supported by rocks.
 

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Pretty much. In my experience, Acanthos don't like being on the rocks or having their mantles unsupported. Same deal with indos. Cynarina will spread like Indos on the sand, but long term they tend to wither when not in the open or supported by rocks.

I've never heard of this for cynarinas

They're similar to acanthos & indophyllias. Every store & person in the hobby I've spoken to treat these corals all the sane: low light, low flow, in the sandbed, target feed 1x a week
 

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are there any fish to stay away from with meats? I mean reef safe fish. are there some prone to nip.

I am a big fan of wrasses so there will be a few of those for sure. bit wonder about the sand sleeping wrasses, guessing they will get sand all over the meats?
Avoid fish that are not reef safe

Avoid gobies or any fish that will gulp sand and make it rain like snow on the cirals

Avoid clownfish who may try to host the coral
 
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I've never heard of this for cynarinas

They're similar to acanthos & indophyllias. Every store & person in the hobby I've spoken to treat these corals all the sane: low light, low flow, in the sandbed, target feed 1x a week
I'm sure many have had success, it's just been my experience that Cynarina withered on the sand after a few months. The data backs it up since Cynarina are usually collected out of rock crevices in the wild. I'm sure there are some that have done well on the sand though.
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It's also important to remember there are many cryptic species within the genus Cynarina, some of which are sand dwelling (Indophyllia is one of these) while others are rock dwellers. The species I'm referencing here is the common 'bubblegum' Cynarina with few, larger vesicles that are predominantly round in shape.
 

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Love my Acanthophyllia and cyanarina is nice too
 

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