180 New Build Stock List

[Tophers_reef]

About Me: New Reefer here, I have read a lot of books, watched a lot of youtube and with all this quarantine time I think I have finally come up with my dream stock list. Please realize that these will be gradually introduction of fish I am not going to put all the fish in day 1. I plan on doing a fish-less cycle, just because I think that's more ethically sound. This will just be my Fish list. Plan on having a refugium for growing copepods, as well as an oversized skimmer for as you will see I love tangs and know they create a lot of waste, I also plan on making my own food so a larger skimmer is a must. I have a few questions I will post at the end just things I am not sure of. This list will take place 6 months to a few years, money and avalibility pending. All the fish will be juveniles in a perfect world. As you will see I am trying to tick as many boxes of aquarium fish for a real life reef feel and increase biodiversity. Id prefer not to order fish online, but if I have to I think I will use Reef4less and then do my own quarantine.

1st : Banned Cardinals (4)
2nd: Mocha Ocellaris Clown fish (2)
3rd: Midas Blenny Golden, Royal Gramma,Fire fish
4th: Foxface, Shrimp Goby (yellow watchman), Cleaner Wrasse
5th: Longnose hawk fish, Flame hawk Fish
6th: Coral Beauty, Ruby Read Dragonet
7th: Ornate leopard wrasse, Earmuff wrasse, Naoko wrasse, Red Head Solon wrasse
8th: Fat head Anthias
9th: Pyramid butterfly (3)
10th: Be kind Tang Police!! Yellow tang, Purple tang, Blue Tang, Powder Blue Tang (All the tangs will juveniles and be quarantined in adjacent tanks so they can get use to seeing one another, and they will be placed into the Display tank at night time)
11th: Blue Throated Trigger, Green mandarin goby

Please feel free to make suggestions as to introduction order!!
1. Can I add in a Naso Tang, or am I tanged out?
2. Thoughts on a larger angel being added, something from the family Genicanthus as they are the most reef safe.
3. When is the best time to add a clean-up crew? I'm thinking, Banded Trochus Snails, Super Tongan Nassarius Snails, Blue tuxedo urchin, cleaner shrimp, pistol shrimp for the goby.

 

[PeaBrain]

Welcome aboard, Tophers_reef!

Let's start with, how large is your display tank and sump?

 

[Tophers_reef]

Welcome aboard, Tophers_reef!

Let's start with, how large is your display tank and sump?

180 gallon mixed reef tank, what size sump would you recommend? 90 gallon?

 

[fishguy242]

75 will work lil shorter if using tank,

 

[PeaBrain]

It might be okay to add all fish at the same time, as long as you don't have any other livestock (corals). Anyone?

 

[Fred2482]

It might be okay to add all fish at the same time, as long as you don't have any other livestock (corals). Anyone?

I would not add them all at the same time. Need to ensure the new aquarium handles the bio load. I would also stay away from the Naso, they ideally need more space to swim. CUC should be added after there is a food source for them.

 

[Dbichler]

that’s a huge bio load for a 180. Definitely need to build up to that. The tangs you listed will likely fight but may tolerate each other you never know for sure.

 

[Luis1992]

I have a koi tang, blonde naso, gen tang and hippo tang. Mirror trick works wonders if you see any aggression.

 

[Tophers_reef]

I have a koi tang, blonde naso, gen tang and hippo tang. Mirror trick works wonders if you see any aggression.

How long do you keep the mirror there for?

 

[Luis1992]

It depends on the fish. I’ve heard of people doing it up to a month. What I do is put a full size standing mirror rapped to the tank for at least a few days. Then remove and monitor for aggression. If aggrwsuon continues add again. Month is overkill imo

 

[Luis1992]

Picture for reference

 

[Super Fly]

Wish I'd started w a large tank, so jelly. I'd recommend a brittle or serpent star fish as part of CUC, they are very cool.
Tangs should be fine as long as they are added at same time and well fed to reduce aggression. Also, FYI - Tangs should be the last addition or else they can/will bully any new comers after establishing their territory esp the Powder Blue which is the most aggressive Tang. Here's a good thread about Tangs

Tang Aggression - Understanding and Combating

Tang Aggression - Understanding and Combating So what's the deal with tangs? How do I keep them together? Why are they so aggressive and difficult to keep sometimes? It's a common discussion point. Some may dissent with what I have to share but I've never had less than three tanks running at a...

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