3000 GPH @ 20' of head - What pump am I buying ?

[14 foot reef]

I think I'm at the end of my rope with Reeflo. I have the Reeflo Suntail 4000's runing in tandem on my system.(they are discontinued now) They both cause just to many problems and issues to continue in this direction. I have 2 on the shelves as back ups and those have issues also. I just had one fail, over heating loud noises and leaking at the seal. I switched it out for one of my back ups, and the back up sticks at start up, so can not rely on it. If power goes out even for a few seconds, it will not start up unless I spin it up manually, then it will run. Of course I can not rely on that. The other one on the shelve leaks terribly at the shaft seal, even though its a new seal, as the shaft is rusted from previous leaks, so it will not seal.

Is there a quality AC pump that can move that much water and be relatively quiet and relatively energy efficient. It is a garage application so quiet isn't a must.
When I look there just doesn't seem to be many options out there that fit this need. Pumps need to run a minimum of 3000 GPH @ 20' of head each, and I would need 2 of them.

DC pumps are out of the question because of cost. 2 DC pumps would be near $4000.00

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Eric

 

[JoshH]

No personal experience but iwalki, Panworld/Blueline seem to be the top runners for non-DC options, I'm in a similar predicament and am looking at Royal Exclusive myself. 2 Speedy 230W pumps would run $2600...

Edit: Even the 230W wouldn't be enough...

 

[joseserrano]

Abyzz

 

[14 foot reef]

Abyzz

Aren't Abyzz DC pumps ? As mentioned, need 2 of them, not in my budget. need to stay AC

 

[robbyg]

Try taking one of the other pumps starter capacitor out and replace it in the backup that has starting issues.

 

[Jaebster]

Sorry, I know nothing about high volume high head height external pumps... but I do remember checking out the webpage at aquariumspecialty.com and they seem to have a large selection of them compared to other online retailers.

Aquarium & Pond Pumps | Aquarium Speicalty

Best selection of aquarium & pond pumps anywhere from Red Dragon, Ecotech Marine, Vertex, Reeflo, Sicce, Panworld, Abyzz & more.

www.aquariumspecialty.com

 

[ca1ore]

That's a pretty short list im afraid. Neither the Iwaki or PanWorld pumps will get you there and, of course, the abyzz 400 isn't AC LOL (and it's crazy expensive). Have you looked at Dolphin? Much more reliable than Reeflo as long as you get the version rated for an abrasive environment (type 3 seal). Model 7450 would work; around $650 if memory serves.

https://dolphinpumps.com/aqua-sea

 

[14 foot reef]

That's a pretty short list im afraid. Neither the Iwaki or PanWorld pumps will get you there and, of course, the abyzz 400 isn't AC LOL (and it's crazy expensive). Have you looked at Dolphin? Much more reliable than Reeflo as long as you get the version rated for an abrasive environment (type 3 seal). Model 7450 would work; around $650 if memory serves.

https://dolphinpumps.com/aqua-sea

this is Great info, I used to run dolphins a long time ago. kinda had the same problem as reeflo. leaking seals, noisy bearings once seal started leaking.

 

[Feet4Fish]

Dolphin, MRC pumps might do it as well

Personally run Reeflo but understand your situation

 

[14 foot reef]

MRC MP6100 HydroTek Pump

This looks very promising !!!! No revies anywhere. Has anyone used this punp or their line of pumps, how is there quality?

 

[Silent]

Pool pump would work and be cheaper. They are not very noisy either. Maybe a Hayward or Pentair.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Reeflo hammerhead gold

 

[JoshH]

MRC MP6100 HydroTek Pump

This looks very promising !!!! No revies anywhere. Has anyone used this punp or their line of pumps, how is there quality?

They are pretty new being released last year so no long term reviews that I've come across... they use the exact same motor as the Reeflo pumps so not sure if they have managed to improve the seals atall or where the differences truly lie... also at 20ft the flow curve puts the GPH at around 2200 so it falls short of your 3000GPH goals...

 

[14 foot reef]

Pool pump would work and be cheaper. They are not very noisy either. Maybe a Hayward or Pentair.

Pool pump ? Brand ? are they HC ( Highly Corrosive seals in place ) Thanks

 

[Cory]

Be careful using a pool pump. You want to look out for high energy consumption, noise, and possibly metal parts in the pump chamber.

 

[14 foot reef]

They are pretty new being released last year so no long term reviews that I've come across... they use the exact same motor as the Reeflo pumps so not sure if they have managed to improve the seals atall or where the differences truly lie... also at 20ft the flow curve puts the GPH at around 2200 so it falls short of your 3000GPH goals...

Thank you very much, yes I see that but I would trade off flow for reliability. I've moved away from the triton method

Be careful using a pool pump. You want to look out for high energy consumption, noise, and possibly metal parts in the pump chamber.

That is something I would never do, I guess my reply was more in sarcasm.....OOPS. HeHe

 

[Silent]

That is something I would never do, I guess my reply was more in sarcasm.....OOPS. HeHe

Sarcasm or not...Sequence pumps would be a good choice. They make pool, pond, and pool booster pumps. Saltwater seals and enclosed impellers with efficiency and reliability.
https://mdminc.com/sequence/

 

[ca1ore]

this is Great info, I used to run dolphins a long time ago. kinda had the same problem as reeflo. leaking seals, noisy bearings once seal started leaking.

Interesting. I had a very good experience with dolphin, though it was only a sample size of one. Imprtant to get the type 3 slat/reef/abrasive seal.

 

[Feet4Fish]

I do love my Hammerhead with a Baldor motor. Replace seals annually and has never given me a problem.

 

[Feet4Fish]

Those looked like great pumps! Never knew of them. Thanks for sharing.

Sarcasm or not...Sequence pumps would be a good choice. They make pool, pond, and pool booster pumps. Saltwater seals and enclosed impellers with efficiency and reliability.
https://mdminc.com/sequence/