AliE LED bar vs. T5

[MarcosTacos]

It has a better, wider blue spectrum than the others. That's why I linked it.

The one you linked has a choice of either 2 diode types or 4 diode types, the lenses are also 90 degree, aren't the populargrow ones 120 degrees?

 

[TelegrahamTested LLC]

The one you linked has a choice of either 2 diode types or 4 diode types, the lenses are also 90 degree, aren't the populargrow ones 120 degrees?

I believe populargrow uses 90°, but I've asked them.

Regarding different spectrum diodes on a bar, I wouldn't go with more than three. As you test the spectrum down the length of the bar, four or more different spectrum diodes do not offer the same spectrum when tested. Additionally, if you're supplementing your main lights with bars, you probably don't need to add more 450nm.

 

[Acros]

I believe populargrow uses 90°, but I've asked them.

Regarding different spectrum diodes on a bar, I wouldn't go with more than three. As you test the spectrum down the length of the bar, four or more different spectrum diodes do not offer the same spectrum when tested. Additionally, if you're supplementing your main lights with bars, you probably don't need to add more 450nm.

As per Aliexpress, popular grow uses 120 degree reflectors.

 

[MarcosTacos]

I believe populargrow uses 90°, but I've asked them.

Regarding different spectrum diodes on a bar, I wouldn't go with more than three. As you test the spectrum down the length of the bar, four or more different spectrum diodes do not offer the same spectrum when tested. Additionally, if you're supplementing your main lights with bars, you probably don't need to add more 450nm.

Let's say they are both 90°, they both look identical, but the other ones have a dimmer / timer included for cheaper....

What spectrum should I go for in your opinion if I run the xr15 g5 pro? I was debating between 470 across the board or 430/470.

 

[TelegrahamTested LLC]

popular grow uses 120 degree reflectors

Thank you!

 

[TelegrahamTested LLC]

What spectrum should I go for in your opinion if I run the xr15 g5 pro? I was debating between 470 across the board or 430/470.

Just 470nm, or consider repeating 410/420/470. The G5/G6 went meh on the lower violet. The below is all channels at 100%.

 

[Royal_pudding]

Anybody have experience with having these bars configged as a 12k-ish spectrum?

 

[oreo54]

Anybody have experience with having these bars configged as a 12k-ish spectrum?

Many use like 10000-12000k "white" leds soo a pure "white" bar would do it.
But from a color perspective "I" would consider it a mistake..
Best to do the t5/MH approach of a tri-phosphor like bar.
Just have 14000k mh available. Difference between that and 12000k isn't much.

As an led example..
* MIXING LIST
----------------------------------------
LED RoyalBlue (450nm) x3.5
LED Green (520nm) x7
LED Amber (600nm) x10
----------------------------------------

* SIMULATION DATA
----------------------------------------
Luminous flux: 1,290 lm
Radiant flux: 4,344 mW
PPF: 18.6 umol/s
TCP: 11900 K
CRI: 70
λp: 448 nm
Color: #A7B3FF

A typical 12000k led

A typical 12000k "RGB" (doesn't have to be amber) led

All theoretical of course.
Not too many would venture into the RGB arena.. :)
ATI Aquablue special.. "whitest" T5 that is very high K.
Just for the concept..

To make it a "True" 12000k...Subtract blue or add more G/A

* MIXING LIST
----------------------------------------
LED Green (530nm) x6
LED Amber (600nm) x7
ATI AquablueSpecial (RGB) x1
----------------------------------------

* SIMULATION DATA
----------------------------------------
Luminous flux: 2,906 lm
Radiant flux: 10,832 mW
PPF: 46.1 umol/s
TCP: 12500 K
CRI: 67
λp: 543 nm
Color: #9DB1FF

 

[TelegrahamTested LLC]

configged as a 12k-ish spectrum

Not populargrow, but Quanta, yes -

Luca is a MH guy, and this is his 12k chaser, the Tropic Sun. https://www.quantareef.com/product-page/quanta-pro-tropic-sun

 

[oreo54]

Not populargrow, but Quanta, yes -

Luca is a MH guy, and this is his 12k chaser, the Tropic Sun. https://www.quantareef.com/product-page/quanta-pro-tropic-sun

That too...........;)

 

[Royal_pudding]

Not populargrow, but Quanta, yes -

Luca is a MH guy, and this is his 12k chaser, the Tropic Sun. https://www.quantareef.com/product-page/quanta-pro-tropic-sun

Yes I've been looking at those, they are 90° right?
I only have 3 inches to play with (no pun intended) so 120° would be ideal

 

[TelegrahamTested LLC]

Yes I've been looking at those, they are 90° right?
I only have 3 inches to play with (no pun intended) so 120° would be ideal

Quanta's spread is in the 105-110° range.

 

[oreo54]

Yes I've been looking at those, they are 90° right?
I only have 3 inches to play with (no pun intended) so 120° would be ideal

At 105-ish spread is about 11".
What do you want to use them for?
Primary or secondary?
And what are the tank dimensions?

What 12000k "tone" do you prefer?
Range is purplish white to aqua white.

 

[Royal_pudding]

At 105-ish spread is about 11".
What do you want to use them for?
Primary or secondary?
And what are the tank dimensions?

What 12000k "tone" do you prefer?
Range is purplish white to aqua white.

First off. Thanks for taking the time advising me
I really appreciate it!

Dimensions:
LxWxH
60x20x23

I have a single 48" AI Blade Grow running 75% white 25% Royal Blue.
Wife dislikes more blue than that.

So Im looking at a supplemental led bar or two for the extra par. Im sorry Im not familiar with tone :/ i guess aqua white is more preferable. But i like the tone I get from the blade with current settings. I can always configure the blade for more blue later on I suppose.

 

[TelegrahamTested LLC]

First off. Thanks for taking the time advising me
I really appreciate it!

Dimensions:
LxWxH
60x20x23

I have a single 48" AI Blade Grow running 75% white 25% Royal Blue.
Wife dislikes more blue than that.

So Im looking at a supplemental led bar or two for the extra par. Im sorry Im not familiar with tone :/ i guess aqua white is more preferable. But i like the tone I get from the blade with current settings. I can always configure the blade for more blue later on I suppose.

You'll find the Tropic Sun to be very different than the Grow. This is the Grow at 100% all channels.

Quanta Pro Tropic Sun

Blade Grow

Dropping the blue will simply reduce it, but it'll still be there in the whites.

 

[oreo54]

First off. Thanks for taking the time advising me
I really appreciate it!

Dimensions:
LxWxH
60x20x23

I have a single 48" AI Blade Grow running 75% white 25% Royal Blue.
Wife dislikes more blue than that.

So Im looking at a supplemental led bar or two for the extra par. Im sorry Im not familiar with tone :/ i guess aqua white is more preferable. But i like the tone I get from the blade with current settings. I can always configure the blade for more blue later on I suppose.

The Tropic Sun (if you don't care to config your own) would probably be a night/day difference on what you have now even at 75% white.
The tropic with the large amount of "regular blue" and cyan it should be pretty close to"aqua blue" but not quite the green blue of aqua and have plenty of usable par as well. It is orders of magnatude more err "colorful".
As a comparison you could whiten (supplement bar) a glow to 12000K but it would look violet-ish.
due to the 405,415,430 leds. that low of blue stimulates your red receptors rendering the color violet
to your eyes.
That's what I meant by different 12000K's.
K really doesn't define a "look".


I'd love to comment on the "pop" but really not in my pay grade.
Need someone who used them for that.
430,470-ish and 500 add a lot of photons that excite fluorescence but then you have 2 whites.
Of course each white has its own blue component.
The other thing is unlike the blade you have no "channel control"

If you use the blades as a programmed "glow stick" I'm not sure the Reef Crest will be an equivalent.
Like I said though, out of my pay grade.
Does look to be a nice natural colored light though.

Maybe you now see why your goal is important.
Any blue stick adds par. Any white stick adds par (by definition)

As an "add on" to your other lighting that too has an impact though.

Simple questions are rarely simple.

Oh yea if you can best to get bars that fit especially with your height restriction. Necessary? No, just preferred.

 

[Royal_pudding]

That is alot to take in
But, thank you!
I think I will contact populargrow and see if they have something for me

 

[TelegrahamTested LLC]

Just have 14000k mh available.

That OG 14000k hurts my brain. Here’s newer.

 

[oreo54]

That is alot to take in
But, thank you!
I think I will contact populargrow and see if they have something for me

Do not believe Populargrow bars have channels either.
I'd need the power supply stats but looks to be 9 in series then, depending on length x number in parallel.
18,27,36 all divisble by 9.
I have a pattern, much like the reef crest.
Only 4 "colors". A toned neutral white with the proverbial broad blue band.
450's filled in by the white.
Diode actual nm are dependent
on what bin they get.
You can up the nm of whites but suggest never going beyond 8000k
will no longer be near 12000k-ish

Keep in mind these are napkin estimates and still not sure about you goal as to using it for "pop" or just par and a more non-blue look.x

 

[oreo54]

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