Antibiotic Needed?

[puccie1]

Can anyone advise antibiotic I can use with copper power which is safe. My Niger Trigger has a bacterial infection I believe. I have already use Maracyn 2 for 8 days with out copper power in tank since then I have place him in a tank containing Copper Power. Thanks for any input!

 

[vetteguy53081]

Can anyone advise antibiotic I can use with copper power which is safe. My Niger Trigger has a bacterial infection I believe. I have already use Maracyn 2 for 8 days with out copper power in tank since then I have place him in a tank containing Copper Power. Thanks for any input!

My goodness. My recommended treatment is Seachem Neoplex which addresses both fungal and bacterial issues but One who works with pathogenic issues and would like for him to chime in is @Jay Hemdal

 

[MnFish1]

@Jay Hemdal .

Before jay gets here - can you go to the bottom of my signature - and answer the questions on that list - it will be a big help. Without a history - it will be difficult to even start to figure out what that is. The fish itself looks wasted and thin.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Can anyone advise antibiotic I can use with copper power which is safe. My Niger Trigger has a bacterial infection I believe. I have already use Maracyn 2 for 8 days with out copper power in tank since then I have place him in a tank containing Copper Power. Thanks for any input!

Is the lesion just on the fish's right side?
How long did this take to grow?

As @MnFish1 said, we need additional background information. The fish does look wasted away.

I've never seen a bacterial plaque quite this severe. It might be a rarer fungal infection. There isn't any way to tell without doing a scrape and looking under a microscope - if you can see fibers/strands, then it is a fungus, if you can't, then it is more likely bacterial.

Jay

 

[puccie1]

My goodness. My recommended treatment is Seachem Neoplex which addresses both fungal and bacterial issues but One who works with pathogenic issues and would like for him to chime in is @Jay Hemdal

Thank for input

Is the lesion just on the fish's right side?
How long did this take to grow?

As @MnFish1 said, we need additional background information. The fish does look wasted away.

I've never seen a bacterial plaque quite this severe. It might be a rarer fungal infection. There isn't any way to tell without doing a scrape and looking under a microscope - if you can see fibers/strands, then it is a fungus, if you can't, then it is more likely bacterial.

Jay

its on both sides looks like a fungus? Thanks for your time

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Thank for input

its on both sides looks like a fungus? Thanks for your time

I’m not sure if it is bacterial plaque or a fungus - being on both sides of the fish tends to rule out an injury as being the start of this. I’ve never seen this before, so I’m just speculating here….
Jay

 

[MnFish1]

Check out this article - to me it looks like saprolegniosis (with or without a secondary bacterial infection)

'https://www.ratemyfishtank.com/blog/how-to-deal-with-marine-fungus-in-the-saltwater-aquarium

 

[vetteguy53081]

Thank for input

its on both sides looks like a fungus? Thanks for your time

Still thinking fungus and recommend seachem neoplex
If eat, add seachem metroplex to the foods

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Check out this article - to me it looks like saprolegniosis (with or without a secondary bacterial infection)

'https://www.ratemyfishtank.com/blog/how-to-deal-with-marine-fungus-in-the-saltwater-aquarium

Saprolegnia, “water mold” can’t live in seawater, freshwater only. There are a few other, much rarer fungal infections of marine fish, most are internal.
Jay

 

[MnFish1]

Saprolegnia, “water mold” can’t live in seawater, freshwater only. There are a few other, much rarer fungal infections of marine fish, most are internal.
Jay

Interesting it was from a reef article. I’ll post it after I’m done with this appt

 

[puccie1]

Interesting it was from a reef article. I’ll post it after I’m done with this appt

Thank You

 

[MnFish1]

Below is the quotation from the article I was reading. Of @Jay Hemdal is correct - its a freshwater fungus. There are scientific reports of it in marine fish (mostly in brackish water).

Here is the quote from the Article:
"
There are several different types of marine fungus, some of which are normally harmless to aquarium fish. Saprolegnia fungi, for example, are common in all types of aquariums and they typically feed on organic waste like dead fish and uneaten fish food. In cases of poor water quality, however, this fungus may start to grow on aquarium fish, especially if its gills or skin have already been damaged. Overcrowding and stress in the saltwater aquarium may also increase the likelihood that normally harmless fungus will begin to attack your fish.

The most common type of fungal infection in saltwater and freshwater aquarium sis body fungus – this type of infection is very distinctive and generally easy to diagnose. These fungal infections typically manifest in the form of fuzzy patches growing on the body or fins of infected fish. As the infection spreads, the growths may become enlarged and could begin to take on a green or brownish tint as a result of debris particles becoming trapped on the filaments. Once this type of fungal infection sets in, it can quickly spread throughout the body of infected fish. Though the infection usually does not penetrate any deeper than the superficial muscle and gill layers of the body, it can cause severe damage. Some fungus may also excrete harmful chemicals that can weaken the immune systems of infected fish, leaving them more susceptible to secondary infections."

 

[hrdneglcry]

Hello. Sorry not meaning to hijack. I have a maroon clown female that I tried to pair with a like sized maroom clown. They beat each other up pretty well. They live i separate aquariums now. They are healing. One of them has two tufts of white in it. One on the front pectoral fin and one on the gill plate. I thought it was just cartilidge and and after effect of the fight but I just spotted it today. The fight was a week ago. I thought it was fungus and was looking for what to treat it with. But then I came across this thread. Do saltwater fish get fungus?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Hello. Sorry not meaning to hijack. I have a maroon clown female that I tried to pair with a like sized maroom clown. They beat each other up pretty well. They live i separate aquariums now. They are healing. One of them has two tufts of white in it. One on the front pectoral fin and one on the gill plate. I thought it was just cartilidge and and after effect of the fight but I just spotted it today. The fight was a week ago. I thought it was fungus and was looking for what to treat it with. But then I came across this thread. Do saltwater fish get fungus?

No - saltwater fish do not develop saprolegnea fungus that is so common in freshwater fish that have been injured. In fact, adding some salt to the water is a common treatment for saprolegnea. Marine fish do get some rarer internal fungal issues.
If you post a pic of your clown we might be able to tell more, but often, these issues can’t be identified from a photo. Two more common causes of white tufts are bacteria or lymphocystis.
Jay

 

[hrdneglcry]

Thank you. I think they are just torn fins. The fish won't let me get a great look but I got a better look today. Now that I know it can't be fungus I am less worried and it has gotten bigger today. One definitely looks just like its from the fight.

 

[CoralB]

Still thinking fungus and recommend seachem neoplex
If eat, add seachem metroplex to the foods

If not eating can you inject metroplex mixed with food into its stomach with a syringe base and a coffee straw as a needle then do a fresh water dip before you put him in the tank with the neoplex ???