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Hello,

This is my first post I have a cbb for one month in qt. He has no problem eating. Day one was a full dose of cupramine .58 and prazi for 2 weeks. Then a water change making sure the copper didn't drop. Water temperature 80 degrees. There looks like white spots or sores on the scales to me it dosen't look like ich but I'm not sure. There is also a brown line present one the one side. Any help is greatly appreciated
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Yeah that looks like Ich - and a possible bacterial infection

ammonia poisoning is another possibility but as his gills aren’t red I’d probably rule that out unless he’s rapidly breathing

Doesn’t appear to be Uronema
 
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Yeah that looks like Ich - and a possible bacterial infection

ammonia poisoning is another possibility but as his gills aren’t red I’d probably rule that out unless he’s rapidly breathing

Doesn’t appear to be Uronema

Thank you for your response ammonia I think is out the qt has been up for 2 years no heavy breathing.

How should I treat the bacteria infection?
 

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I have kanaplex on hand?
If you can get furan-2 and metroplex I’d use all three together but Kanaplex is a good start.

flashing is a sign of any parasitic infection so could have also been due to a combination of crypto and flukes.

I see you are treating with copper at therapeutic levels which should have solved your ich problem ... but those photos show a pretty heavy infestation. when did the spots appear? Was it gradual a few spots at a time or they all sort of appeared overnight ?
 

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Did you do two rounds of prazi 5-7 days apart? Definitely something going on there.

How do you test copper?
 
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If you can get furan-2 and metroplex I’d use all three together but Kanaplex is a good start.

flashing is a sign of any parasitic infection so could have also been due to a combination of crypto and flukes.

I see you are treating with copper at therapeutic levels which should have solved your ich problem ... but those photos show a pretty heavy infestation. when did the spots appear? Was it gradual a few spots at a time or they all sort of appeared overnight ?


Thanks for the information!! That's what's odd everything was looking good I went on a trip 5 days. Then came home to white spot evey where but this is after a month of copper dosen't make sense.
 

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Thanks for the information!! That's what's odd everything was looking good I went on a trip 5 days. Then came home to white spot evey where but this is after a month of copper dosen't make sense.

Yep certainly doesn’t make sense if you dosed copper correctly and there were no real signs of it prior. Is copper still in the tank or have you removed it now?
 

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Yes 2 rounds of prazi I'm checking copper with the hanna high range checker

Well I wonder what the deal is then. Certainly looks like ich in the pics.
 

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Did you add anything to the tank at all during this period? Other fish, equipment? Do you have any other QT tanks that could have carried an infection over?

To determine if it’s ich you could also do tank transfer method and see if that helps
 
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Did you add anything to the tank at all during this period? Other fish, equipment? Do you have any other QT tanks that could have carried an infection over?

To determine if it’s ich you could also do tank transfer method and see if that helps

Looking closely they appear to have slight movement is it possible to be mico bubbles? I turned off the sponge filter still running the hang on the back filter to see if it is bubbles?

No nothing added to the tank there was a flasher wrasse in this him purchased at the same time but he didn't make it after 2 weeks
 

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Spots only visible in certain angles

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Possible but hard to determine through pictures - without scooping him up and gently brushing over the scales to see if they are just bubbles you will have to just wait and see

othwise give tank transfer ago as that will ensure ich is gone if done correctly
 
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Possible but hard to determine through pictures - without scooping him up and gently brushing over the scales to see if they are just bubbles you will have to just wait and see

othwise give tank transfer ago as that will ensure ich is gone if done correctly

Thank you for the help
 

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Hi there. Can you please clarify your QT process from day 1 - current? walk me through it.
 
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Hi there. Can you please clarify your QT process from day 1 - current? walk me through it.

It's a 29 gallon with a sponge filter and a aqua clear filter. The fish was acclimated and put into the tank that was at .58 copper. After a few days I started treatment with prazi 2 doses a week apart. Then a 50 percent water change making sure the copper never drops. Then another 2 weeks just in the copper and then to the DT in most cases.
 

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He might be having a skin reaction to meds. Typically it’s not advised to mix medications like that. Treat copper at therapeutic levels first, ideally 30 days to fully eradicate the parasite. Run carbon and conduct water change to remove copper and then administer 2 rounds of Prazipro with water changes between the doses.
 

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