chemi clean

[guysmiley]

does it mater if uv is on using chemi clean i am trying to find out if it will have any detrimental effects??

 

[tnw50cal]

The instructions say to turn off UV.

 

[vetteguy53081]

You want it off and 24-48 hrs off after treatment

 

[guysmiley]

The instructions say to turn off UV.

does it have any detrimental side effects i asked was the question

 

[laezur]

If the instructions tell you to turn off the UV then that answers the question for you.

Edit: I misunderstood possibly what I was replying to. I don’t know WHY it may be detrimental, but that’s not initially what you asked

 

[guysmiley]

Not to be rude pal but if the instructions tell you to turn off the UV, then that kind of answers the question for you.. Follow the instructions.

thats because im dealing with ich

 

[fishmonkey]

Not to be rude pal but if the instructions tell you to turn off the UV, then that kind of answers the question for you.. Follow the instructions.

He just wants to know why.

 

[laezur]

He just wants to know why.

I’ve edited my comment, as I MAY have misunderstood - but the question as to “what are those effects” was never asked, just “if it has detrimental effects”

 

[laezur]

thats because im dealing with ich

You should include this in your original post so people can further help you in terms of ich.

 

[Hairyteeth]

This is just what happened to me recently, not any factual proof, or saying it’s a good idea but…. newer tank dec21, dosed full dose, 150gal tank, and forgot to turn mine off, everything is mostly fine, think I lost two frags that, some things got beat up, others are never better, maybe that’s why things got extra ticked? Other tank dose day before, uv off no problems? Idk

 

[Coolcasino]

Turn off the UV. The UV will make the chemiclean not work. Becomes inert I believe. Turn off your skimmer because the chemiclean will cause it to overflow uncontrollably. They say to leave it on but even in the lowest setting it overflowed. You can just take to cup off and let it overflow into the tank if you need your skimmer on. Remove any other media while treating. Carbon or any other absorption media will remove chemiclean. After treatment do a 20% water change. Turn on UV and Skimmer. Add carbon to remove the remnants of chemiclean. I think you will be ok with a few days with the UV off If your treating for ich. Wait for the ich cycle that the cyst drops from all fish. The UV will be most effective when the cysts are free swimming finding a host.

 

[fishmonkey]

I’m considering using chemiclean for cyano. Should I try 3 day blackout first?

 

[Coolcasino]

I’m considering using chemiclean for cyano. Should I try 3 day blackout first?

Wont hurt to try.

 

[guysmiley]

Turn off the UV. The UV will make the chemiclean not work. Becomes inert I believe. Turn off your skimmer because the chemiclean will cause it to overflow uncontrollably. They say to leave it on but even in the lowest setting it overflowed. You can just take to cup off and let it overflow into the tank if you need your skimmer on. Remove any other media while treating. Carbon or any other absorption media will remove chemiclean. After treatment do a 20% water change. Turn on UV and Skimmer. Add carbon to remove the remnants of chemiclean. I think you will be ok with a few days with the UV off If your treating for ich. Wait for the ich cycle that the cyst drops from all fish. The UV will be most effective when the cysts are free swimming finding a host.

thank you so it makes it inert sorry for the confusion caused ! iv just got pentair 80 watt so was wondering

 

[guysmiley]

I’m considering using chemiclean for cyano. Should I try 3 day blackout first? to hard on the corals id expect

 

[Reefahholic]

I wouldn’t dose it since we know it’s an antibiotic and they lied to try and cover it up.

Here’s what you may want read and consider before dosing it:

Here's a write up from Germany when Chemiclean was sold there. This was Translated from German into english:

"In August, we applied for a ChemiClean laboratory test via the laboratory www.eurofins.de . The result came at the end of August.

The result was then as feared:
The ChemiClean agent does contain antibiotics, and according to the laboratory's analysis, exactly 320 mg / body weight . It is a physico-chemical investigation. (LC-MS / MS) Test report number: AR-06-JJ-076115-01 and sample number: 703-2006-00076098
Start of examination 08/07/2006
End of examination 08/30/2006

This antibiotic that was found in the laboratory is called erythromycin. This is a very cheap broadband antibiotic that is in the cent range."

Interzoo 2006 in Nürnberg - schau mal rein...
Interzoo 2006 in Nürnberg - schau mal rein...
archiv.korallenriff.de

archiv.korallenriff.de/06_chemieclean.html
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@Randy Holmes-Farley weighs in:

lol

You've been snookered!

Don't feel bad, most people are by this misleading description. That's my point.

Note: THEY DO NOT say it doesn't contain erythromycin.

If I claimed I do not have a red chevy in my driveway, does that mean I do not have a chevy in my driveway? Of course not.

They claim it does not contain "erythromycin succinate".

I and other chemists stated for many years that this claim was very unusually written. Succinate is not important. Erythromycin comes in other forms and is even approved by the FDA for human use in other forms. Succiante is just the counterion for the positively charged erythromycin. Any negatively charged ion could work in this application.

But that's just informed speculation, here's the proof, as proven in court in Germany:


Chemi-clean
Having struggled with stubborn red Cyno for a few months I decided to give Chemiclean a go. I've followed the instructions to the letter regarding turning equipment off and performing a large water change, however I still can't run the skimmer 3 days later due to the amount of foam being...

www.ultimatereef.net

In that thread, Claude from Fauna marin states:

"We had in germany a big scandal due to this and the product was analyzed by the veterany office of Hannover
and they showed that this product is erythromycine sulfate .. this is a antibiotics whic normaly only a doctor can give up due to the usage in this case and this ammounts the possibilitly of unwanted resistance is very big"

 

[fishmonkey]

I wouldn’t dose it since we know it’s an antibiotic and they lied to try and cover it up.

Here’s what you may want read and consider before dosing it:

Here's a write up from Germany when Chemiclean was sold there. This was Translated from German into english:

"In August, we applied for a ChemiClean laboratory test via the laboratory www.eurofins.de . The result came at the end of August.

The result was then as feared:
The ChemiClean agent does contain antibiotics, and according to the laboratory's analysis, exactly 320 mg / body weight . It is a physico-chemical investigation. (LC-MS / MS) Test report number: AR-06-JJ-076115-01 and sample number: 703-2006-00076098
Start of examination 08/07/2006
End of examination 08/30/2006

This antibiotic that was found in the laboratory is called erythromycin. This is a very cheap broadband antibiotic that is in the cent range."

Interzoo 2006 in Nürnberg - schau mal rein...
Interzoo 2006 in Nürnberg - schau mal rein...
archiv.korallenriff.de

archiv.korallenriff.de/06_chemieclean.html
_____________________________

@Randy Holmes-Farley weighs in:

lol

You've been snookered!

Don't feel bad, most people are by this misleading description. That's my point.

Note: THEY DO NOT say it doesn't contain erythromycin.

If I claimed I do not have a red chevy in my driveway, does that mean I do not have a chevy in my driveway? Of course not.

They claim it does not contain "erythromycin succinate".

I and other chemists stated for many years that this claim was very unusually written. Succinate is not important. Erythromycin comes in other forms and is even approved by the FDA for human use in other forms. Succiante is just the counterion for the positively charged erythromycin. Any negatively charged ion could work in this application.

But that's just informed speculation, here's the proof, as proven in court in Germany:


Chemi-clean
Having struggled with stubborn red Cyno for a few months I decided to give Chemiclean a go. I've followed the instructions to the letter regarding turning equipment off and performing a large water change, however I still can't run the skimmer 3 days later due to the amount of foam being...

www.ultimatereef.net

In that thread, Claude from Fauna marin states:

"We had in germany a big scandal due to this and the product was analyzed by the veterany office of Hannover
and they showed that this product is erythromycine sulfate .. this is a antibiotics whic normaly only a doctor can give up due to the usage in this case and this ammounts the possibilitly of unwanted resistance is very big"

I know it’s an antibiotic but at a certain point I feel like I want to use it due to the cyano smothering my corals

 

[Reefahholic]

I know it’s an antibiotic but at a certain point I feel like I want to use it due to the cyano smothering my corals

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. If it’s about to kill the corals I’d use it.

 

[Hairyteeth]

That was why I used it, only the second time for me in my short three years….if things are dying or close too and I’ve been trying with no success to cure then like said above, gotta do what you gotta do