crown molding

[greg0385]

im building my stand so far everything has turned out really nice. now im doing the trim work and i have to say that crown molding is harder than it looks. my problem is when i get to a corner and i cut it at a 45degree angle it doesnt work. the top of the molding needs to be longer than the bottom. if someone could help me with this part i would really appreciate it. will try and post pics later but must warn you that i only have a cellphone camera.
thanks
greg

 

[barbianj]

Assuming you're using a miter saw, hold a piece of molding along the back of the fence as even as possible. It should be the same distance along the bottom as along the fence. Make a pencil mark along the fence, and line all of the pieces up to the line when they are cut. It's the next best thing to having crown molding stops. :wink:

Sometimes the molding profile is jacked and it's hard to get it to match up.

 

[phi delt reefer]

watch a couple youtube videos on how to cut measure and install crown molding. theres a lot of little tricks to it that are easier to understand when you see it rather than explain it on a forum.

 

[greg0385]

i guess i need to use a cope saw, im at a friends house and looking at his crown molding corners, they are all cope saw out. this is the way i go instead of wasting any more molding.
greg

 

[swannyson7]

i guess i need to use a cope saw, im at a friends house and looking at his crown molding corners, they are all cope saw out. this is the way i go instead of wasting any more molding.
greg

It can be done with a miter saw and will line up better than coping it by hand. Google cutting crown molding and you'll get tutorials with pics. It's hard because it goes against logic to cut it properly, but can be done. I had a hard time with it the first time I needed to cut for a convex angle as well, but a little research will keep you from wasting any more trim.


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[barbianj]

It can be done with a miter saw and will line up better than coping it by hand. Google cutting crown molding and you'll get tutorials with pics. It's hard because it goes against logic to cut it properly, but can be done. I had a hard time with it the first time I needed to cut for a convex angle as well, but a little research will keep you from wasting any more trim.


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Do you mean a jig saw?

 

[swannyson7]

Do you mean a jig saw?

No, it can be done with a miter as long as you make a jig to clamp the material to and then butt it up against the fence.

 

[greg0385]

i have a little miter box saw with a hand saw, i need a electric miter saw i guess. if i could get this right then im done except painting. problem being my box saw only has 45 and 90 degree cuts to be made. outside corners arent the problems, as i built colums and there is a couple inside corners that are on a couple of inches big. will try again tommorrow.

 

[Paul_N]

watch a couple youtube videos on how to cut measure and install crown molding. theres a lot of little tricks to it that are easier to understand when you see it rather than explain it on a forum.

This one is a good one to watch for outside corners:

[video=youtube;B6dXc464oU8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6dXc464oU8[/video]


For inside corners it's best to use a miter saw then then a coping saw to cut out the back of one of the pieces to get a tight fit.

[video=youtube;4tRayrmwpfQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tRayrmwpfQ&feature=related[/video]

 

[swannyson7]

This one is a good one to watch for outside corners:

[video=youtube;B6dXc464oU8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6dXc464oU8[/video]

Based on the explanation of his problem, I would guess that the crown molding the OP is using is angled molding instead of sitting flat against the wall like that. Here's a video to help if that's the case:
YouTube - How To Cut Crown Molding

I've always found that making a wooden jig will help so that you can make more precise cuts. Just clamp the trim to two small pieces of scrap that are cut like this on each side of the cut and butt them up against the fence of the miter saw

 

[EASTCOASTREEFER]

45 degree angle cut on a 45 degree bevel do not use coping saw for crown only shoe and base moldings.

 

[greg0385]

i watched the top video when i first posted this, thought EASY, cut the molding, then realize that his molding is a flat back and its different from mine. i did watch a couple yesterday that helped saying make a gig, so with fair weater today im going to attempt to get it right.

 

[barbianj]

It's not really as easy as watching a video. There is some learned skill involved. The inside corners need to be cut with a miter saw and then back-cut with a coping saw. It helps to have crown molding stops on the saw to keep all of the cuts even. A jig saw and a guide can be used to make the back-cut instead of a coping saw. Fine tuning can be done with a file like in the video.

 

[Troylee]

It's actually very simple to cut.... You just gotta hold the piece the way it mounts and cut your 45 on it... Laying it flat etc won't work....
Took these pics just for you ahahaha sorry just snapped them real quick... You wanna hold it like the first pic and cut your normal 45 the second pic will never work...