Did we ever figure out what in Tech M Magnesium kills Bryopsis?

[Yevoc]

So as the title states. I am looking at treating Bryopsis in my tank. One of the many solutions listed was raising magnesium above 1600 to 1800. This honestly seems less drastic than Reef Flux.

I had started raising my mag, now only in the 1400 range and read more stories and forum post about this.

Many people are stating this only worked with Kent Tech M and that that only worked because of impurities in the product. Later people stating that Kent had cleaned up their product and this no longer worked at all. On the flip side some are stating that it still works regardless and that any mag works.

I couldn't really find a definitive answer.

I was wondering if the mystery ingredient was ever tracked down?

 

[NickHolmes]

Following. This devil bush will be my undoing.

 

[NickHolmes]

I used Epsom salts in the past which is magnesium sulphate. Not sure what is mainstream now

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

So as the title states. I am looking at treating Bryopsis in my tank. One of the many solutions listed was raising magnesium above 1600 to 1800. This honestly seems less drastic than Reef Flux.

I had started raising my mag, now only in the 1400 range and read more stories and forum post about this.

Many people are stating this only worked with Kent Tech M and that that only worked because of impurities in the product. Later people stating that Kent had cleaned up their product and this no longer worked at all. On the flip side some are stating that it still works regardless and that any mag works.

I couldn't really find a definitive answer.

I was wondering if the mystery ingredient was ever tracked down?

Not that I am aware.

 

[moz71]

FYI I have read all the same as you and was skeptical myself. As a result reluctanty i tried the flucanzole and boy did it work fast and no other issues at all. matter of fact tried to find negatives posted on flux and did not find much if any at all. just giving my story

 

[Rtaylor]

So as the title states. I am looking at treating Bryopsis in my tank. One of the many solutions listed was raising magnesium above 1600 to 1800. This honestly seems less drastic than Reef Flux.

I had started raising my mag, now only in the 1400 range and read more stories and forum post about this.

Many people are stating this only worked with Kent Tech M and that that only worked because of impurities in the product. Later people stating that Kent had cleaned up their product and this no longer worked at all. On the flip side some are stating that it still works regardless and that any mag works.

I couldn't really find a definitive answer.

I was wondering if the mystery ingredient was ever tracked down?

What do you think is drastic about reef flux (fluconazole)? It is extremely safe. I’m sure there are a few people who have a loss after using It and have (probably without evidence) attributed it to reef flux, but the overwhelming evidence is that it is very safe and effective.

 

[Midrats]

I've had a double dose of fluc going for over three weeks. Nothing is unhappy in my tank except all the algae. The bryopsis was the first to go. Now the turf and bubble are going away. I hated putting an antibiotic in there but it's working. Vibrant was way harder on the tank.

I also heard that whatever worked in Tech M isn't in there anymore.

 

[Yevoc]

What do you think is drastic about reef flux (fluconazole)? It is extremely safe. I’m sure there are a few people who have a loss after using It and have (probably without evidence) attributed it to reef flux, but the overwhelming evidence is that it is very safe and effective.

I used Reef Flux before and it did nuke the Bryopsis but I am not a fan of pulling the skimmer off line for that long while the PO4 and Nitrogen cycle yo yo all over the place.

 

[Midrats]

The directions on my bottle say to leave the skimmer off for three days.

 

[Yevoc]

The directions on my bottle say to leave the skimmer off for three days.

Yeah Flux RX says 10-14 days.

 

[Rtaylor]

I've had a double dose of fluc going for over three weeks. Nothing is unhappy in my tank except all the algae. The bryopsis was the first to go. Now the turf and bubble are going away. I hated putting an antibiotic in there but it's working. Vibrant was way harder on the tank.

I also heard that whatever worked in Tech M isn't in there anymore.

Just fyi, fluconazole is an anti fungal, not an antibiotic

 

[Yevoc]

I used Epsom salts in the past which is magnesium sulphate. Not sure what is mainstream now

Did the Magnesium Sulphate kill your Bryopsis?

 

[NickHolmes]

Did the Magnesium Sulphate kill your Bryopsis?

It did but I spot treated out of tank

 

[Piker]

I'll be the guy who chimes in with bad experience. I lost 4 sps frags to fluconazole. Walt disney, bc lemon hammer, event horizon milleopora and fox flame did not survive.

My lobo and acans survived but were certainly not as fat and fluffy. Heartbreaker acro also survived. I have 3 others that I'm still waiting to either recover or die.

I tested kh/no3/po4 daily, and ran rowa phos to keep po4 down. I did not see any spikes.

This, as anything, is anecdotal. But I would not put in my tank again. At least unless it was A. A TERRIBLE outbreak and B. All of my sps were WELL acclimated and thriving.

I wouldn't hesitate in softie/LPS tank however.

 

[Yevoc]

I'll be the guy who chimes in with bad experience. I lost 4 sps frags to fluconazole. Walt disney, bc lemon hammer, event horizon milleopora and fox flame did not survive.

My lobo and acans survived but were certainly not as fat and fluffy. Heartbreaker acro also survived. I have 3 others that I'm still waiting to either recover or die.

I tested kh/no3/po4 daily, and ran rowa phos to keep po4 down. I did not see any spikes.

This, as anything, is anecdotal. But I would not put in my tank again. At least unless it was A. A TERRIBLE outbreak and B. All of my sps were WELL acclimated and thriving.

I wouldn't hesitate in softie/LPS tank however.

I've run Flux before and it didn't eliminate the Bryopsis so I was looking for options.

My case I didn't lose any coral to Flux but it killed tons of coraline. That felt like a real step back in fighting the nuisance algae.

 

[moz71]

I'll be the guy who chimes in with bad experience. I lost 4 sps frags to fluconazole. Walt disney, bc lemon hammer, event horizon milleopora and fox flame did not survive.

My lobo and acans survived but were certainly not as fat and fluffy. Heartbreaker acro also survived. I have 3 others that I'm still waiting to either recover or die.

I tested kh/no3/po4 daily, and ran rowa phos to keep po4 down. I did not see any spikes.

This, as anything, is anecdotal. But I would not put in my tank again. At least unless it was A. A TERRIBLE outbreak and B. All of my sps were WELL acclimated and thriving.

I wouldn't hesitate in softie/LPS tank however.

Interesting, I am a believer in every tank is different ( bacteria strains element loads balance etc). it seems every additive (Vibrant, chemo clean any antibiotic etc) is a risk. I have read about Same tank having different experience from different times with same additive. In end rolling dice on changing anything in out tanks that is why when I do add anything new slower the better. Anyhow. Good to know. Hope remaining recover.

 

[shwareefer]

So as the title states. I am looking at treating Bryopsis in my tank. One of the many solutions listed was raising magnesium above 1600 to 1800. This honestly seems less drastic than Reef Flux.

I had started raising my mag, now only in the 1400 range and read more stories and forum post about this.

Many people are stating this only worked with Kent Tech M and that that only worked because of impurities in the product. Later people stating that Kent had cleaned up their product and this no longer worked at all. On the flip side some are stating that it still works regardless and that any mag works.

I couldn't really find a definitive answer.

I was wondering if the mystery ingredient was ever tracked down?

I'm sure I read this whole thread claiming the magic ingredient was lithium. Has that been debunked, or is it just inconclusive, or was this just forgotten?

Tech-M's Magic Bryopsis killing ingredient: Lithium

This appears to be a mystery (outside of Kent's offices anyway) for some time but it appears that the magic ingredient in Tech-M that kills Bryopsis is Lithium. Between the last 2 Triton tests I have dosed pretty much nothing but Tech-M. No other levels have changed really except Magnesium (up...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Dennis Cartier]

I'm sure I read this whole thread claiming the magic ingredient was lithium. Has that been debunked, or is it just inconclusive, or was this just forgotten?

Tech-M's Magic Bryopsis killing ingredient: Lithium

This appears to be a mystery (outside of Kent's offices anyway) for some time but it appears that the magic ingredient in Tech-M that kills Bryopsis is Lithium. Between the last 2 Triton tests I have dosed pretty much nothing but Tech-M. No other levels have changed really except Magnesium (up...

www.reef2reef.com

Hmm, this thread died out with no conclusion on if lithium worked or not. @JimWelsh Did your test work? Your last post was when you were about to start dosing into the test tank.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I've never seen any evidence it was lithium. It would also surprise me if it was.

 

[JCOLE]

Did anyone report coral loss while using the Tech M? Supposedly Brightwell has the same formula relabeled. Curious to see if that would be a better alternative to use with an Acropora dominate system than dosing Fluconazole.