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I’m going to be doing a fish move from their existing to the new tank. Aside from nutrient levels, all parameters are the same. The majors for fish, Salinity, temp, PH are identical. Do I still need to acclimate them or simply catch and place into the new tank. New tank is completely cycled.
My plan is to get the fish over and once I can get the nutrient levels identical, start moving the coral over.

Any issues with this?
 

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I’m going to be doing a fish move from their existing to the new tank. Aside from nutrient levels, all parameters are the same. The majors for fish, Salinity, temp, PH are identical. Do I still need to acclimate them or simply catch and place into the new tank. New tank is completely cycled.
My plan is to get the fish over and once I can get the nutrient levels identical, start moving the coral over.

Any issues with this?
Id do it to be safe, better to be safe than sorry
 

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If all the parameters are identical as you say I wouldn't bother with acclimation. I would be concerned with adding to many fish at once to a newly cycled tank. Based on number of fish and size of tank.
 

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I’m going to be doing a fish move from their existing to the new tank. Aside from nutrient levels, all parameters are the same. The majors for fish, Salinity, temp, PH are identical. Do I still need to acclimate them or simply catch and place into the new tank. New tank is completely cycled.
My plan is to get the fish over and once I can get the nutrient levels identical, start moving the coral over.

Any issues with this?
Solid aquascape as well in the new tank? PLenty of hiding places, swim lanes, etc?

I would not acclimate, but I tend to wear a bigger cowboy hat than some. But matching parameters and a good habitat, I think you're pretty safe.
 
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If all the parameters are identical as you say I wouldn't bother with acclimation. I would be concerned with adding to many fish at once to a newly cycled tank. Based on number of fish and size of tank.
Going from. 75 to a 150. 2 sm clowns, 1 YT, 1 wrasse, I goby, 1 flame Angel, 1 file fish, 1 Anthia. In terms of bioload, the cycle took 1.5 ppm NH3 down to undetectable in 24 hours, so my thought is it can take the load (that’s what she said)
 
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That’s the new scape. Eventually in the next week or so, the old scape will go on the other side. But for now I’m should probable be ok for territory.
 

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You might consider getting one of the seachem ammonia alert badges so you can keep an eye on it till you get everything straightened out
 

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So for my liking this is not adequate rockscape, half the tank open, etc.

Undetectable nutrients are likely going to cause dinos or other nuisance algae issues as well. I'd be addressing that pretty quickly. 5-20 nitrates, .1-3. phos.
 

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I’m going to be doing a fish move from their existing to the new tank. Aside from nutrient levels, all parameters are the same. The majors for fish, Salinity, temp, PH are identical. Do I still need to acclimate them or simply catch and place into the new tank. New tank is completely cycled.
My plan is to get the fish over and once I can get the nutrient levels identical, start moving the coral over.

Any issues with this?
I don't know if this is compatible with your plan (since I don't know your plan😉) but if the old tank and fish are healthy, it's a good practice to re-use all of the old water, rock, sand, etc in the new setup. As much as makes sense.

Then the fish go right in ASAP for minimum stress. If possible, never remove the fish from the water.
 
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So for my liking this is not adequate rockscape, half the tank open, etc.

Undetectable nutrients are likely going to cause dinos or other nuisance algae issues as well. I'd be addressing that pretty quickly. 5-20 nitrates, .1-3. phos.
My nutrients are NO3 25 and PO4 .1 not sure where you got undetected from.
 
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I don't know if this is compatible with your plan (since I don't know your plan😉) but if the old tank and fish are healthy, it's a good practice to re-use all of the old water, rock, sand, etc in the new setup. As much as makes sense.

Then the fish go right in ASAP for minimum stress. If possible, never remove the fish from the water.
I am using the old rockscape. I never reuse sand though. Can’t use the old water as the coral are staying put until the nutrients are stable at 25 and .1. The new sand and rock are still soaking up PO4 so it’s not stable at .1 for more than a day.
 

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I'd have been saving all your old water change water from the old tank so you had enough to make the new tank.

Use as much old as you can, like I said. As much as makes sense. Just about every scrap matters. 👍

Re-using sand would help a lot – why do you not re-use sand from a healthy tank?
 
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Re-using sand would help a lot – why do you not re-use sand from a healthy tank?
I went from Oolite to special grade on this build. I hate the way the finer sand blew around when I turned up my gyre. Looks great, but just blows around too easily.
 

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I am using the old rockscape. I never reuse sand though. Can’t use the old water as the coral are staying put until the nutrients are stable at 25 and .1. The new sand and rock are still soaking up PO4 so it’s not stable at .1 for more than a day.
Seems like once you start feeding the new contents of this tank, it will quickly be inundated with PO4.

@Randy Holmes-Farley am I misremembering that you did an article that analyzed the amount of N and P that food adds to a tank? (Maybe it was a typical feeding of your tank.)

I've looked and can't find the article, so maybe it wasn't you after all?

I went from Oolite to special grade on this build. I hate the way the finer sand blew around when I turned up my gyre. Looks great, but just blows around too easily.
Gotcha – makes sense.

I would still consider bringing it over as bio-media....keep it in a container or mesh bag so it's easy to remove. Can go anywhere.
 

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....and more directly answering your first post, fish aren't going to care at all about nutrient levels. As far as that goes, your new tank is ready. (Didn't mean to ONLY make a distracting post and not answer your question. LOL)
 

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