Experiment converting corals to freshwater

[BigTomo003]

The more you hand wave away the very serious questions being posed, the more this comes off as just some way to plug your YouTube channel.

The channel was somewhat of a place for people who where interested to go and check out the progress with thair own eyes instead of being a comment on a reefing forum. Nothing to do with plugging my channel, as it was created to document what happens

 

[BigTomo003]

Guys if you don't want to know what happens, leave there is no point in commenting about how bad or whatever. If your interested stay, if your not leave.

Saying this is all about a YouTube channel blows my mind if u go on and check it was created like 2 weeks ago.

 

[BigTomo003]

Totally agreee, I think people are going a little hard on OP rn. Not that I think the idea will work, it almost certainly won't and I agree with Mr. Knightley and others that it seems you need more research. I'm really not trying to needle here, but your inability to spell (unless english is a second language, in which case I apologize) shows a certain lack of attention to detail that you will definitely need pursuing something this crazy.

However, your tetra idea is NUTS. They, like nearly 100% of freshwater fish, will tolerate a very low level of salinity (not just NaCl, other salts too). Guppies, and their kin platys, mollies, etc., are already physiologically adapted to handle brackish, like a mummichog, so the "experiment" to transition them wasn't much of an experiment.

I still say try it, but you definitely will not be getting a saltwater breeding tetra population in 5 years. Getting the fish to tolerate it is one thing - getting their eggs/fry to tolerate salt is totally different.



just don't use wild/endangered corals.... If you use cultured/tank raised corals I think people should save their ethical concerns for something more legitimate than a guy wasting his money

I have dyslexia,, all good. But yeah it would be my own zoas from my own colonies that I see are thriving the most.

As for the tetras was just a decision point and an idea to throw up.

The qt is in process of getting setup for the zoas. They will be starting at 1.025sp

 

[afishbestservedcold]

I have dyslexia,, all good. But yeah it would be my own zoas from my own colonies that I see are thriving the most.

As for the tetras was just a decision point and an idea to throw up.

The qt is in process of getting setup for the zoas. They will be starting at 1.025sp

Oh sorry haha, forget about spelling then!

I think zoas are a fine place to start.

If you want to get a schooling saltwater fish that is a plausible and lucrative idea, maybe Pseudomugil cyanodorsalis, japanese ricefish (first fish in space and it bred on the space station!) or a similar brackish species would be a good place to start converting to full salt. only problem is most of these species act like little salmons - they go upstream to breed in fresher water.

 

[BigTomo003]

Oh sorry haha, forget about spelling then!

I think zoas are a fine place to start.

If you want to get a schooling saltwater fish that is a plausible and lucrative idea, maybe Pseudomugil cyanodorsalis, japanese ricefish (first fish in space and it bred on the space station!) or a similar brackish species would be a good place to start converting to full salt. only problem is most of these species act like little salmons - they go upstream to breed in fresher water.

Its all good man, I think so too, I've had zoas for a while now and I have learnt to tell when something is up and usually what's going on with them. Mine have adapted to living in high light high flow which is something as when I've asked other people they say thair zoas tend to prefer low light and low flow, medium at most.

Again if it looks like anything is wrong at all (melting ect) I will be removing them instantly.


Yeah, I'll leave the fish out of it for now ahaha I think the coral will be much more suitable for it. Plus if they really can't take it they will close up and barely be harmed as they close shut water tight

 

[BZOFIQ]

Lot's of people playing god lately on this forum and today is not April 1st. I believe just last week somebody said they want to convert clownfishes to freshwater.

Things that make you say hmmmmmm

 

[BigTomo003]

Lot's of people playing god lately on this forum and today is not April 1st. I believe just last week somebody said they want to convert clownfishes to freshwater.

Things that may you say hmmmmmm

Zoanthids are totally possible. The most adaptable animal I've EVER owned I think it's 80% possible to do this

 

[Sharkbait19]

I would really like to see if this can work. It may not (even likely wouldn’t) just because of general cnidarian anatomy. But anything is possible as long as all of the precautions are taken. There are definitely corals that could have better freshwater tolerance.
As for fish from freshwater to salt, you may have a better bet with fish like cichlids. Rift lake cichlids tolerate many ocean conditions, and many from most regions have a salt tolerance.
Good luck, I hope to see how this goes. The only way to know for sure whether something can work is to try it.

 

[BigTomo003]

I would really like to see if this can work. It may not (even likely wouldn’t) just because of general cnidarian anatomy. But anything is possible as long as all of the precautions are taken. There are definitely corals that could have better freshwater tolerance.
As for fish from freshwater to salt, you may have a better bet with fish like cichlids. Rift lake cichlids tolerate many ocean conditions, and many from most regions have a salt tolerance.
Good luck, I hope to see how this goes. The only way to know for sure whether something can work is to try it.

Thanks, yeah man I was looking at fish from lake tanyika, sorry I can't spell but I hope u get it,, I definitely think corals are possible especially zoanthids for a fact they can get to brackish I think that would be possible without even testing,, but I will need to start from saltwater to brackish to full fresh in the matter of a few years. No doubt that they won't make it to brackish. I think if I can get them to that point, I'm halfway there and if I can get them to grow new heads then it's a massive step forward. Entirely possible

 

[Sharkbait19]

With the fish, you can attempt to meet in the middle with shell dwellers (pretty sure their lake tang) and blue leg hermit crabs, which can go low brackish.

 

[BigTomo003]

With the fish, you can attempt to meet in the middle with shell dwellers (pretty sure their lake tang) and blue leg hermit crabs, which can go low brackish.

I've seen them before, pretty cool. King of diy has them. I absolutely adore simbiotic relationships

 

[Thaxxx]

This is where I saw it...

Im not 16 lol where did u get that from

Hi all, I'm new here. Kept freshwater tanks since I was young although I'm still 16 the saltwater has taken over. tanks been setup for just over a month now peramiters are spot on! I've reaserched everything and taught myself everything so far and would like an opinion from a pro reefer

Stock 2 ocy clowns (male 1" female 1.5")
3 scarlet hermits
1tiny baby bristle starfish (hitchhiked on ZOA's)
1 blood red fire
torch coral
zoas
green mushrooms

i plan to add some nassarus snails and 1 bottom dwelling fish and another mid swimmer and ovsly a few more corals

Screenshot from galery as apparently the picture is too big lol

 

[BigTomo003]

This is where I saw it...

Man I meant I've kept them for 16 years. Don't know if u can tell by now but I'm not the best at wording sentences

 

[Thaxxx]

Sorry for the error

 

[BigTomo003]

Sorry for the error

It's my bad I think I need to go get someone to type for me ahahha

 

[Jib]

So the animals in question (Tetras and Corals) have evolved over millions of years to live in either fresh water and salt water. What specifically makes you think you could convert them over a period of 1-5 years?

 

[BigTomo003]

So the animals in question (Tetras and Corals) have evolved over millions of years to live in either fresh water and salt water. What specifically makes you think you could convert them over a period of 1-5 years?

1. Zoanthids are exepsionaly good at adapting
2. 1 - 5 years is a baseline why is everyone taking the stuff so litiral I've said many times before if u don't believe it can happen then you don't need to ask the Same question that I've answered about 5 times today

 

[BigTomo003]

So the animals in question (Tetras and Corals) have evolved over millions of years to live in either fresh water and salt water. What specifically makes you think you could convert them over a period of 1-5 years?

Not a dig at you btw, just saying

 

[Jib]

why is everyone taking the stuff so litiral I've said many times before if u don't believe it can happen then you don't need to ask the Same question that I've answered about 5 times today

Because based on all of your responses it seem like you are just going to kill animals for YouTube views.

 

[Sharkbait19]

You know, there were freshwater jellyfish discovered in a lake a few years back, so who’s to say there can’t be other freshwater/brackish cnidarians, perhaps microorganisms?