Fighting Dino’s without UV

[j.speaks]

Is a UV sterilizer NEEDED for treating ostreopsis? I don’t have the budget for one.

For reference I have a 65 gal and Dino’s came out of nowhere but they are hitting hard. (I’m 99% sure it’s ostreopsis)

What are other treatment methods I can use in place of one?

 

[slingfox]

You can try but you may end up using more money fighting Dino’s unsuccessfully without a UV. Losing coral, dosing chemicals, dosing bottled bacteria, dosing phyto, adding copepods, etc. The money can add up. Dino’s wiped out a bunch of my coral during the first year I had my tank. An expensive lesson!

 

[Bear22]

Is a UV sterilizer NEEDED for treating ostreopsis? I don’t have the budget for one.

For reference I have a 65 gal and Dino’s came out of nowhere but they are hitting hard. (I’m 99% sure it’s ostreopsis)

What are other treatment methods I can use in place of one?

Reading through a ton of dino posts and watching some of the Jason Mack podcasts you'll come to the realization that dino treatment is a multitude of combined strategies - UV chief among them. I'd start dosing silicates immediately if you aren't already and lower your light levels (the gas pedal for dinos).

 

[SchrutesReefs]

I’m sure you’ve looked, but I have had luck finding a used one and then getting a new bulb when the timing is right. When I got hit with dinos a while back I attacked them with a 3 day blackout while dosing hydrogen peroxide, mixed with a lot of water changes and daily housekeeping.

 

[j.speaks]

I’m sure you’ve looked, but I have had luck finding a used one and then getting a new bulb when the timing is right. When I got hit with dinos a while back I attacked them with a 3 day blackout while dosing hydrogen peroxide, mixed with a lot of water changes and daily housekeeping.

Only problem is I have some sps, they are resilient but I’m hesitant to do a blackout. Honestly may try it tho can always get more coral

 

[James CNM]

Wrap the tank, total darkness, Forget The uv, useless!. They say three days. I went five. It worked, i had a couple of sps. They did survive. Have to say it was the most boring five days not being able to view something i had spent a small fortune on. My thoughts, Remove the problem and accept the loss

 

[slingfox]

Wrap the tank, total darkness, Forget The uv, useless!. They say three days. I went five. It worked, i had a couple of sps. They did survive. Have to say it was the most boring five days not being able to view something i had spent a small fortune on. My thoughts, Remove the problem and accept the loss

UV is far from useless. It is one of the mostly widely cited ways to combat Dino’s for a reason.

 

[James CNM]

UV is far from useless. It is one of the mostly widely cited ways to combat Dino’s for a reason.

Fair enough, i will clarify.

Uv will control but will 'Only' target floating dinoflagellates! Very much like dealing with white spot(ich) it will not treat anything attached to substrate or rockwork!

To deal with that you will have to disturb, ie blasting the substrate and rockwork preferably after lights out into the water column. Disturb and damage the dna and prevent reproduction. Mix up some calcium carbonate dissolved in ro... IE Coral snow, great flocculant and carrier for pests and food

Ozone will blow UV, saying that, i use both

 

[Bear22]

Fair enough, i will clarify.

Uv will control but will 'Only' target floating dinoflagellates! Very much like dealing with white spot(ich) it will not treat anything attached to substrate or rockwork!

To deal with that you will have to disturb, ie blasting the substrate and rockwork preferably after lights out into the water column. Disturb and damage the dna and prevent reproduction. Mix up some calcium carbonate dissolved in ro... IE Coral snow, great flocculant and carrier for pests and food

Ozone will blow UV, saying that, i use both

UV is one of the principle means for dino treatment. Well established, lot's written about it.

Also, the ich life cycle by no means has it permanently "attached" to substrate and/or rockwork.

 

[James CNM]

Also, the ich life cycle by no means has it permanently "attached" to substrate and/or rockwork.

Lets not discuss the Encysted stage, that can lay dormant for long time The op asking about dino ...Both are present, substrate or rockwork

 

[Bear22]

Lets not discuss the Encysted stage, that can lay dormant for long time The op asking about dino ...Both are present, substrate or rockwork

You're the one who brought it up (ich). And to be more precise the "encysted" stage as you call it is known as the tomont/tomites stage in most scientific vernacular circles.

 

[BeanAnimal]

Fair enough, i will clarify.

Uv will control but will 'Only' target floating dinoflagellates! Very much like dealing with white spot(ich) it will not treat anything attached to substrate or rockwork!

UV can be very effective for some species of dinoflagellates, specifically those that spend part of the day or night swimming in the water column. The difference here between these and something like marine ich is the goal of eradication versus control.

“Bad” dinoflagellate species can already be present in a system without causing a problem. They only become a problem when something shifts that favors their proliferation.

Using UV to knock them back while other remedies, natural or human, address the conditions that allowed them to thrive is the goal. Kill the bloom and take away whatever it is that is allowing it to tip the scales in its favor. That does not require killing every dinoflagellate in the system.

I am not arguing against a blackout or other methods at all, and each system may have a different set of variables; species, water parameters, flow, biology, etc. A particularly sized UV may not be effective control in some systems and may be very effective in others.

 

[James CNM]

You're the one who brought it up (ich). And to be more precise the "encysted" stage as you call it is known as the tomont/tomites stage in most scientific vernacular circles.

Your correct, Been through all the crypto etc...maybe before you was an itch in yer daddies pants, apologies for drifting Like i said, "UV or Ozone will only deal with anything that passes through"

Apologies 2 j.speaks . I was only replying to my experience re uv. Good luck Reef friend

 

[Bear22]

Your correct, Been through all the crypto etc...maybe before you was an itch in yer daddies pants, apologies for drifting Like i said, "UV or Ozone will only deal with anything that passes through"

Apologies 2 j.speaks . I was only replying to my experience re uv. Good luck Reef friend

I consider myself to be decent at reading comprehension, but your writing style comes across as pretty much complete gibberish. Were you sober when you wrote what you wrote?

 

[James CNM]

Were you sober when you wrote what you wrote?

Absolutely!