Florida senate votes against protecting reefs

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Your argument is not based on facts. The whole banning position is based on the old enviro tactic of labelling something as a threat, & then demanding implementation of the precautionary principle.

The Polly didn't implement the ban because -"Overall, the impacts of oxybenzone and octinoxate to intact corals occur at much higher concentrations than this study found in seawater near coral reefs".
Reply to my other comment. I read the article. If your position is “do nothing, ignore it”, then you’ve made your position. We’ll all take it into account.
 
I was talking in general but of course, your ego may have gotten hurt and you had to make it personal. BTW your analogy falls short to be even a real comparison to the topic of the discussion. Nice distraction though the award should be arriving soon.
Here's a display of the tactics supporters of this, & similar issues use. Aggressively belittle & insult your opponents, then accuse them of "making it personal" :rolleyes:
 
Your position is nothing backs your position? Alrighty then.
My position is, if evidence exists that these chemical are impacting coral reefs, ban them.

No evidence has been put forward to support this so far.
 
Here's a display of the tactics supporters of this, & similar issues use. Aggressively belittle & insult your opponents, then accuse them of "making it personal" :rolleyes:

1. I was never aggressive.
2. Please show me where I insulted you.
3. You made it personal, not me.

Keep spinning the facts, please.
 
1. I was never aggressive.
2. Please show me where I insulted you.
3. You made it personal, not me.

Keep spinning the facts, please.
Your first post was sarcastically rude to everyone who you disagree with, son!

Re-read that & your previous post to me.
 
Here's a display of the tactics supporters of this, & similar issues use. Aggressively belittle & insult your opponents, then accuse them of "making it personal" :rolleyes:
It’s a shame that you’ve made yourself a victim when there’s a perfectly good article for discussion not to mention an entire World Wide Web for you to go out and support your argument. This is why we can’t have nice things.
 
It’s a shame that you’ve made yourself a victim when there’s a perfectly good article for discussion not to mention an entire World Wide Web for you to go out and support your argument. This is why we can’t have nice things.
Teaming up with another to attack someone you're loosing an argument to is a dog act.
 
The Polly didn't implement the ban because -
"Overall, the impacts of oxybenzone and octinoxate to intact corals occur at much higher concentrations than this study found in seawater near coral reefs"

:)
 
It’s supposed to be a discussion. Of course people team up with people they agree with. I’m sure someone will come support you soon.
 
Your first post was sarcastically rude to everyone who you disagree with, son!

Re-read that & your previous post to me.

I was stating my view, not attacking anyone I was raised better than that. Re-read the previous post and found no foul language, name-calling, or whatsoever. Also, please do not call me son. You are not my father nor my superior therefore making yourself look superior to me is useless.
 
It’s supposed to be a discussion. Of course people team up with people they agree with. I’m sure someone will come support you soon.
They've already been here. You want to focus on me because you hold a grudge about some other debate we were suppose to have had some time back, of which you obviously lost.
 
They've already been here. You want to focus on me because you hold a grudge about some other debate we were suppose to have had some time back, of which you obviously lost.
I’m sorry you feel that way. In that exchange you continuously cited sources linked to big oil. Memory is not a grudge. I disagreed with you. A good exchange between us wouldn’t have winners or losers. The outcome should be that we both gain more knowledge. I’m sorry you feel you’re being attacked. I don’t think anybody could disagree with you without you feeling that way. Where do we go from here?
 
So far my position is supported by research - Overall, the impacts of oxybenzone and octinoxate to intact corals occur at much higher concentrations than this study found in seawater near coral reefs" https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190401121805.htm

& the ban sunscreen sides argument has been shown to be just an emotionally feely feely, do what I say approach, using a superficial threat & demanding the precautionary principle.
 
The Polly didn't implement the ban because -
"Overall, the impacts of oxybenzone and octinoxate to intact corals occur at much higher concentrations than this study found in seawater near coral reefs"

:)
such a contrarian. I don’t think you believe in anything at all...just like to push others buttons. Why are you so unhappy that you would argue against protecting coral reefs on a reef forum...? What’s going on man? I see you on every post spreading negativity.
 
such a contrarian. I don’t think you believe in anything at all...just like to push others buttons. Why are you so unhappy that you would argue against protecting coral reefs on a reef forum...? What’s going on man? I see you on every post spreading negativity.
If you can show me the evidence that coral reefs are genuinely in danger from sunscreen, please continue. If not, don't post to me.

On the rest of your garbage post, I've concluded that you're either Living T's father, or lover ?
 
It’s Friday night. Maybe just have a beer? Watch some Netflix? Take some night shots of your tank? Play some Xbox? Swipe right on Tinder? Really anything besides argue against reef conservation...
Lucky they make strawmen, otherwise you'd have no argument. But continue with off topic personal attacks. Hopefully your effort so far will be moderated like your effort the other day was.
 
Update: switched to a screwdriver after running out of beer. Totally based on availability. Far from my first choice. Have to water it down a ton. Anybody else get that heartburn?
 
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