fresh mixed saltwater with phosphate

[Rob77]

would it be normal to have .03 ppm in fresh saltwater ...regular instant ocean with rodi water?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Depends on your source water, but it is no concern, and may just be testing error. You add way more every day in foods.

I discuss that here:

Aquarium Chemistry: Phosphate And Math: Yes You Need To Understand Both
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/chemistry

Comparison of Food Sources of Phosphate to Other Sources
What about other sources of phosphate, like the "crappy" RO/DI water containing 0.05 ppm phosphate? A similar analysis will show it equally unimportant relative to foods.

Let's assume that the aquarist in question adds 1% of the total tank volume each day with RO/DI to replace evaporation. Simple math shows that the 0.05 ppm in the RO/DI becomes 0.0005 ppm added each day to the phosphate concentration in the aquarium. That dilution step is critical, taking a scary number like 0.05 ppm down to an almost meaningless 0.0005 ppm daily addition. Since that 0.0005 ppm is 40-600 times lower than the amount added each day in foods (Table 4), it does not seem worthy of the angst many aquarists put on such measurements. That said, tap water could have as much as 5 ppm phosphate, and that value could then become a dominating source of phosphate and would be quite problematic. Purifying tap water is important for this and many other reasons.

 

[Rob77]

ok I thought I had seen this before .....Thanks alot

 

[bvillarreal]

Depends on your source water, but it is no concern, and may just be testing error. You add way more every day in foods.

I discuss that here:

Aquarium Chemistry: Phosphate And Math: Yes You Need To Understand Both
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/chemistry

Comparison of Food Sources of Phosphate to Other Sources
What about other sources of phosphate, like the "crappy" RO/DI water containing 0.05 ppm phosphate? A similar analysis will show it equally unimportant relative to foods.

Let's assume that the aquarist in question adds 1% of the total tank volume each day with RO/DI to replace evaporation. Simple math shows that the 0.05 ppm in the RO/DI becomes 0.0005 ppm added each day to the phosphate concentration in the aquarium. That dilution step is critical, taking a scary number like 0.05 ppm down to an almost meaningless 0.0005 ppm daily addition. Since that 0.0005 ppm is 40-600 times lower than the amount added each day in foods (Table 4), it does not seem worthy of the angst many aquarists put on such measurements. That said, tap water could have as much as 5 ppm phosphate, and that value could then become a dominating source of phosphate and would be quite problematic. Purifying tap water is important for this and many other reasons.

Mr. Randy, if a freshly mixed batch of Tropic Marin Pro water is giving me a read out of 0.09PPM via Hanna checker; if I take your write up the right way, I shouldn’t worry about it? I’ve recently just started even testing phosphates and let’s just say I need to bring them down. (Testing 0.30 in my DT) I was looking into running phosban or GFO in a reactor, but found that my source water may be my issue. Should I address the source water or run a reactor? Thank you