Freshly Cleaned Rocks producing "Foam"

[SauceyReef]

Idk if adding vinegar to bleached rock is a good idea...

I was just thinking this

 

[Reefering1]

I was just thinking this

I Think that makes mustard gas or chlorine gas or something, either way probably don't want that in my house.
Edit... Google says chlorine gas

 

[moretor1]

And gas ovens produce carbon monoxide. You aren't going to gas your house using vinegar to remove trace amounts of bleach

bleach reacts slowly with vinegar and as long as you arent in a tiny stagnant room there isnt any realistic way for it to build up to dangerous levels

Say you had 140g or ~1/2cup of bleach somehow tucked inside the rock (very unlikely) and it somehow 100% instantly turned into chlorine gas you'd get about 1mole of chlorine gas or 22L

In a 15x15ft room that would make the total concentration ~200ppm which you would have to be breathing it in for almost an hour to kill you. In reality it would slowly leech out and be swept away by your hvac

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

And yet, bad stuff happens:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1078866

 

[saltytanked]

And yet, bad stuff happens:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1078866

Let’s go back in history and cherry pick the one time when it was a LARGE amount lololol

 

[saltytanked]

Use you fricken common sense. Put rock
In a tub outside, bleach it, rinse it, add vinegar, rinse again dry in sun, voila, your not dead…

 

[Reefering1]

Use you fricken common sense. Put rock
In a tub outside, bleach it, rinse it, add vinegar, rinse again dry in sun, voila, your not dead…

Coming from the biggest d bag around... smh

 

[moretor1]

And yet, bad stuff happens:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1078866

Fair but that was the result of large amounts of concentrated bleach mixed directly with industrial scale cleaner (50%+ phosphorus and nitric acid)

Household vinegar is 3% acetic acid I believe? Op has said the rocks have been rinsed and diluted many times over

Don't mix chemicals yeah but you aren't going to die from using a clorox wipe on a table after wiping it down with orange fabuloso earlier that morning

Do it outside if possible, if not opening a window would be more than sufficient

 

[SauceyReef]

I am just going to rinse them out with water a few times and let them dry, than do a vinegar bath and repeat.

Any specific vinegar type i should use? hopefully not balsamic :p

 

[moretor1]

I am just going to rinse them out with water a few times and let them dry, than do a vinegar bath and repeat.

Any specific vinegar type i should use? hopefully not balsamic :p

Regular distilled white vinegar works fine

 

[BeanAnimal]

Use you fricken common sense. Put rock
In a tub outside, bleach it, rinse it, add vinegar, rinse again dry in sun, voila, your not dead…

Why so aggressive and insulting towards other? This is maybe 5 threads where I have crossed paths with you doing this. OP did absolutely nothing to warrant being talked down to like that.

Be nice, it doesn't cost anything.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Let’s go back in history and cherry pick the one time when it was a LARGE amount lololol

I care about safety. More than I care about how to clean rock.

There's never any need to combine an acid with bleach to clean rock.

Some of the things written (that Rev removed) were far too safety averse to allow to stay on a forum where all sorts of folks read it, and may not have the knowledge to exactly determine what is safe and what is not.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I am just going to rinse them out with water a few times and let them dry, than do a vinegar bath and repeat.

Any specific vinegar type i should use? hopefully not balsamic :p

Acid treatment of live rock will etch the surface, removing phosphate. That is the reason folks do it. Other than that, I see no reason for the vinegar treatment, but it is also not harmful when done on dry rock.

 

[saltytanked]

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I am just going to rinse them out with water a few times and let them dry, than do a vinegar bath and repeat.

Any specific vinegar type i should use? hopefully not balsamic :p

Try some red wine vinegar, get a head start on the purple color :grinning-squinting-face:

 

[SauceyReef]

I will just stick with RO baths/rinsing for now.

 

[XtraKargo]

I would not assume all are highly inaccurate, and, of course, the need for extreme accuracy is not high when chlorine is the issue.

https://sensafe.com/sensafe-ultra-low-total-chlorine-pocket-pack/
https://www.hach.com/p-free-total-chlorine-test-strips-0-10-mgl/2745050

Would you only use these on RODI or tap water, or could they work for SW as well?

 

[Jeremy_d]

I Think that makes mustard gas or chlorine gas or something, either way probably don't want that in my house.
Edit... Google says chlorine gas

Yeah, mustard gas is chloraMine gas a derivative of Chlorine Gas. Both bad

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Yeah, mustard gas is chloraMine gas a derivative of Chlorine Gas. Both bad

Not sure what you are saying, but chloramine is not a mustard gas.

 

[Reefering1]

Do both not have chlorine?

 

[BeanAnimal]

Do both not have chlorine?

Distinction:
"chlorine"
"chloramine"

As for "Mustard Gas" - There are no sulfides in the components that make "Chlorine Gas" or "Chloramine Gas"

Let's leave the recipes out of the conversation and take away that we should never combine bleach (or any chlorine containing substance) with acids or ammonia.