Frozn's 160 + Basement sump build (300 gallon system)

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Hey Everyone,

I am fairly new to this forum, and have yet to really get involved. I have been in the hobby for roughly 8 years. I've been a member of Michigan Reefers (Michigan Native) and Reef Central since the beginning. I first started the hobby with a JBJ 24g Nano Cube and soon upgraded to a 90g tank with lower sump. I had a fully packed 90g mixed reef when I decided to move and start on my masters.

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Well after a short break I decided I couldn't shake the addiction and decided to start a shallow rimless and aim for a pristine SPS reef. Things went well at first, but quickly went down hill. I experimented with LEDs and had no luck. So I switch to what I know best, T5's as I blamed the issues on lighting. Things started to look a little better, but that didn't last long at all. There was something going on that I was unable to detect. I ran multiple test and nothing showed as being 'abnormal' or detectable at least. So after numerous attempts at trying to correct a problem I couldn't find - but it was ever so apparent in the corals that kept dying, or would just not color, grow, or show any type of progress; they merely existed. The strange thing was that some corals would do great, SPS were the most challenged.

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After moving into my first house I saw potential for what I could create with my new found space. The rimless was moved in and after a tiresome battle, I decided to take the plunge. I wanted something large, but I didn't want it to be too cumbersome. As well I also didn't want it to overpower my living room but it definitely needed to be a show piece. Once thing I wanted to accomplish was to put all the equipment in the basement so to keep sound minimal in the actual living space.

So let the fun begin as it has already been completed -- for the most part as this was a 6 month process and I've finally found time to start the build thread.

Here is the proposed location of the new tank. The entertainment center will be relocated to the wall currently with the rimless tank.
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Here will be the new location of the entertainment center. This stand was built by me and features a cast concrete top in which the tank sits in, with a corrugated steel stand.
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So lets get to the demo of the new soon to be fishroom. Pictures are worth a thousand words, so I'll keep captions short and allow you to enjoy the journey.

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These bags sure are handy.
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So, lets start some framing.
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Due to the weight the new tank will bring I took into consideration floor support. Having a degree in architecture lends to some specific considerations. The tank it self will have a steel beam that runs along it's backside, and I have added in a bunch of sister joist.
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New concrete to level the floor.
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Wiring and lighting in - Added 20 AMP breaker for basement room, as well as a 20 AMP for the display upstairs.
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New soffit box which I will also add in a vent specially for this room.
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Full insulation to help with sound.
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Drywall started - As well as the plumbing to the display set in place.
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My apologies with some of these pictures. It seems they are getting moved around a bit. I am trying to keep everything as chronological as possible..


TV and entertainment center down.
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Electrical and plumbing holes in.
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So here is the goal and how the tank will arrive in it's place.
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Lets throw up some paint, shall we.
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Whats better than some natural 2-tone poplar?
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Framing for the main counter in the fishroom. Cantilever the side that will partially go over the 100g Rubbermaid sump.
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Corner tower for freshwater and saltwater mixing.
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And the continuation of random pic placement. I swear it doesn't look like this when I am adding these! o_O


Plumbing! Valves valves valves. These things are great, double union solid construction, solid price.
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Reeflo Gold Goby with up-gradable impeller to a barracuda/hammerhead
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Main stack getting started. Also some more of that 2-tone poplar!
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First stage filtration - skimmer box in grey on the right. Also the 40g Bredder - Frag tank and temp live stock tank once the rimless comes down.
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Overflow building - Books.. they are always good for something.
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Let the stand building begin!

So everyone likes tanks and so I decided to build one.. 2x6 construction, ripped down for nice flush non-rounded edges. I felt if I could park a house on it, it could possibly support the tank hehe.
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The new tank! Opted to paint the back glass myself
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And here she is, nice and black. Oh by the way - this is 3 sided Starphire, 5' x 2' x 26" tall.
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Black Walnut 3/4" veneered plywood - furniture grade.
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3/4" Birch Plywood. Nice and gnarly.
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Did some inside skinning with 1/4" Sande Plywood, also added inset lip for the tank
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Here is the birch portion which is actually designed as a mortise and tenon as it is slid together. This is because from front to back the stand will be 36.5" wide. I wanted very large overhangs to really create some depth.
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Top overhang on and the first bit of walnut being attached.
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First door attached. Also another sheet of 1/4" added to the front to complete the finish behind the doors.
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Wow, that seem like a lot of work, good job! Awesome setup, hope to the ending result.
:D BTW welcome to R2R!!!
 
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We're cruising now. I hope ya'll are enjoying the fast forward through this!


So lets take down the old tank!
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So.. I my light didn't come with a hanging kit which it was supposed too and I was counting on.. Nothing like throwing some PVC together for a temp stand.
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Ahh.. thats better. So this was after a week or two in the new system. First observation - Everything is doing 100x better. My issue seems to have vanished with the old tank - I felt there was something in the rock I had purchased that was lending to my issues. The new rock was all dry reef rock that I cooked for about 2 - 3 months.
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So lets start on some polyurethane.. bringing out that beautiful color and grain. I didn't want any stain as I wanted the natural colors to come through along with the natural contrast of the Birch and Black Walnut.
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Canopy work!
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Inset groove to allow for door swing. The devil is in the detail.
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Ventilation!
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So.. lets bring it in! Ok ok, I already did!
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Tank set out for behind the scenes action.. Just wait until you see how I'm going to be accessing this beast!
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The behind the scenes. 2 fans blowing in.. And - The Actuator! This bad boy will raise and lower the entire canopy 24" giving me plenty of room to work inside of the tank with no restrictions.

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Light test! Now.. I just realized I don't have any pictures of how I mounted the lights. I have them installed on draw slides - Also allowing myself room to add in several Kessils (in the future that is) These will come in time, as there is other things I need to spend my money on, and will be more for viewing purposes rather than an actual 'need' as I am running an 8 Bulb ATI fixture.
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So lets get this thing into place! I'm also having trouble loading certain pictures which is kind of ruining the progression! lol.

-Yes that is a car jack.. And it worked perfectly. Nothing like moving something of this size by myself - Engineering has it's uses ;)
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It seems this does not like vertical pictures.. Does anyone have some advice? It doesn't seem to be all of the vertical orientated pics, just most of them ha!
 

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Vary nice build!
Where did you get the black walnut ply from?
Are you happy with the valves? How much ea?
 

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Following. I'm also somewhat active on michiganreefers, but mostly just looking for used stuff to buy. Where are you at? Anywhere near Northville/Plymouth (that's where I am)?
 
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Vary nice build!
Where did you get the black walnut ply from?
Are you happy with the valves? How much ea?
Hey Tim, thank you!

The black walnut is from a local lumber yard.. fairly large lumber yard actually, deals alot with high design etc.

The valves are awesome, they get pricey but i paid $24ea for the large 1.5". I ordered from complete plumbing supply out of Ohio. Other brands or even distributers can be double that price.
 
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Following. I'm also somewhat active on michiganreefers, but mostly just looking for used stuff to buy. Where are you at? Anywhere near Northville/Plymouth (that's where I am)?
Right on, I'm in Clawson/Royal Oak. I haven't been too active on MR. Seems it has died out a lot since i was an active member. It was an awesome local forum thats for sure. I'll be selling my rimless setup soon as I find some time to clean it and post it.
 

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Thanks, what the name and location of the lumber yard. I'm in macomb mi
Great price on the valves, I'm in the market for 8ish. (Setting up a 450)
 
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Thanks, what the name and location of the lumber yard. I'm in macomb mi
Great price on the valves, I'm in the market for 8ish. (Setting up a 450)
Oh man a 450 eh? Thats going to be sweet! The walnut is from Bolyard Lumber in Birmingham. They also have one in Rochester Hills.
 
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Hmm does anyone know how to rotate? Those pictures are vertical and view correctly when I open. However after posting they are now sideways :(
 

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