GOVERMENT SHoT DOWN

H2O · Oct 1, 2013

What's the deal anyone into potitics ?

bct15 · Oct 1, 2013

Basically they can't agree how to spend money so they will completely stop spending money until they get it figured out. Lucky for them, they still get paid while all other government workers might not.

robbrouse · Oct 1, 2013

This could start a real war. Bottom line they did not agree on a budget and shut down. They are acting like babies. U will not go into how I fell, but enough pass the dang budge and get on with it.

H2O · Oct 1, 2013

Looks fake three weeks ago they had enough money to go into world war 3 today they broke its a lie after a lie I say all lay offs should start from the top Obama first .

SuperTang · Oct 1, 2013

My wife works for the government she HAS to go in without pay. :mad:

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GHill762 · Oct 1, 2013

and if they can't get things worked out by mid month, US Gov will start defaulting on debt because the debt ceiling debate is coming 'round yet again..

zemuss · Oct 1, 2013

They should all be fired.. Sorry its basic budgeting concepts. You don't spend more than you bring in. If I remember correctly the IRS revenue is roughly 3 trillion for 2012, so thats the budget ceiling 2.5 trillion a year without raising taxes.

So freaking dumb lets let people go without pay yeah ok you first you point of sale!

GHill762 · Oct 1, 2013

zemuss said:
Sorry its basic budgeting concepts. You don't spend more than you bring in.

in the real world you'd be spot on, when government is involved that doesn't happen and they can get away with it for a lot longer than companies/individuals.

I love how "budget cuts" in gov lingo really just means "a cut to the proposed budget, but still billions more than last year"

gov accounting practices are different from private as well.

Peterock · Oct 1, 2013

Lock em all in a room, no one leaves till they figure it out.

Day one: Toss in some pizzas and water.
Day two: Nothing
Day three: a Chainsaw

jokervueboi · Oct 1, 2013

They're fighting over how to spend American tax dollars, there is no consequences when you spend someone else's money, if you run out, you tax more, if you tax more, blame someone else for it.

Gonzo · Oct 1, 2013

Peterock said:
Lock em all in a room, no one leaves till they figure it out.

Day one: Toss in some pizzas and water.
Day two: Nothing
Day three: a Chainsaw

sounds like something that needs to happen lol

cdness · Oct 1, 2013

It's a two sided argument with little to no compromise from either side. It is mainly stemming from funding the Affordable Care Act... My short side of it is you cannot fix something that doesn't exist. It isn't perfect, but it has a good baseline to try start doing something about a problem that has been plaguing families (myself included) for years. It needs to be tweaked and adjusted as needed, not abolished and dropped altogether...

I am probably sharing too much right now, but currently for my family I am out of pocket just under $1,000 per month for health insurance (this doesn't count dental or vision) with a fairly high deductible. Under the new plan it looks like I personally will save $500 per month even at the highest available plan. This is a very attractive option and will probably be an attractive option for many others out there.

My largest issue with the shutdown is the people who make the decisions (or decide to not make a decision) still get to keep their perks, paychecks, and other benefits while the people they shut down need to go home and suffer without a paycheck. Those are the people who need the money, they are not the people who go into government to become millionaires. In general contracting there is a bid put out which tells how much the company will charge and when they will be done with the project. If they are not done by the stated date, a penalty fee is incurred by the contracting company which either comes off their gross pay or if payed back to the customer for their failure to meet the deadline. If the government which we elect and technically are supposed to be employed to do a job for us cannot get their stuff together, they should incur a penalty for not completing the job on time which can be paid back to the tax payers or reinvested into a fund to support the American people who will suffer if decisions are not made in a timely manner...

I guess in the end, politicians need to get over their "party ideals" and start working toward what will be good for the American people. Too many are looking out for their own pockets and the pocketbooks of those who lobby for them to be in office. We need more politicians who will argue for the common good and welfare of the American people.

My political rant is now over...

Djannel · Oct 1, 2013

Very well said.

Sadly, I am one of those that got sent home and if it wasn't for the wife that makes enough for the bills, I would probably be selling my tank right now in order to have some savings.

cdness said:
It's a two sided argument with little to no compromise from either side. It is mainly stemming from funding the Affordable Care Act... My short side of it is you cannot fix something that doesn't exist. It isn't perfect, but it has a good baseline to try start doing something about a problem that has been plaguing families (myself included) for years. It needs to be tweaked and adjusted as needed, not abolished and dropped altogether...

I am probably sharing too much right now, but currently for my family I am out of pocket just under $1,000 per month for health insurance (this doesn't count dental or vision) with a fairly high deductible. Under the new plan it looks like I personally will save $500 per month even at the highest available plan. This is a very attractive option and will probably be an attractive option for many others out there.

My largest issue with the shutdown is the people who make the decisions (or decide to not make a decision) still get to keep their perks, paychecks, and other benefits while the people they shut down need to go home and suffer without a paycheck. Those are the people who need the money, they are not the people who go into government to become millionaires. In general contracting there is a bid put out which tells how much the company will charge and when they will be done with the project. If they are not done by the stated date, a penalty fee is incurred by the contracting company which either comes off their gross pay or if payed back to the customer for their failure to meet the deadline. If the government which we elect and technically are supposed to be employed to do a job for us cannot get their stuff together, they should incur a penalty for not completing the job on time which can be paid back to the tax payers or reinvested into a fund to support the American people who will suffer if decisions are not made in a timely manner...

I guess in the end, politicians need to get over their "party ideals" and start working toward what will be good for the American people. Too many are looking out for their own pockets and the pocketbooks of those who lobby for them to be in office. We need more politicians who will argue for the common good and welfare of the American people.

My political rant is now over...

jokervueboi · Oct 1, 2013

the Affordable Care Act seems to be another way of taxation. It it be mandatory for people to have health insurance regardless if you're young and healthy. I like the perks it has, but that mandatory or be fine isn't helping.

StevenBell · Oct 1, 2013

THE WHOLE THING IS HIENOUS!Our country is on its knees

eliramos · Oct 1, 2013

H2O said:
Looks fake three weeks ago they had enough money to go into world war 3 today they broke its a lie after a lie I say all lay offs should start from the top Obama first .

agreed!