Help? Is it possible to keep a white and bed

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So I've been using Hanna checkers now, and I am trying to bring my nitrates down some but after reading on here I don't want to bottom out my phosphates. I included a picture of my hanna testers just because, but

My
nitrates are 18
Phosphates .025
And all 8.8

Should I do a say 20 gallon water change and remove my phosphate media?

I am getting some dinos I believe and I wanna get ahead of the problem.

Thank you!

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Your numbers are fine as is.

Is there a reason you are trying to decrease nitrates?
Not a great picture but would like to "balance" my phosphates to nitrates and keep the sand cleaner.
 

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That bit of algae is perfectly normal and healthy for a reef tank.
I wouldn't take any more action.

Maybe more indirect flow onto it?
Thank you, I will give this a shot, I do believe I have ample flow but all up top.
 
I agree with bluemon.
Personally I've never tried for a balance between N and P because I don't think it really matters or at least not in my tanks.
yea I was only just recently made aware of "The Ratio"...

I did not know that was a thing for 15 years apparently. I wouldn't waste our precious sanity these days trying to keep a certain ratio of N to P especially when the test kits only measure non organic N and P
 
I would not try to bring that nitrate down, but I’d make sure the phosphate does not drift down. It is below my target range already.
 
I would not try to bring that nitrate down, but I’d make sure the phosphate does not drift down. It is below my target range already.
Agreed and thank you, should I consider removing the phosguard and see where things stay at. I am running a canister so a bit of a pain.
 
I would not try to bring that nitrate down, but I’d make sure the phosphate does not drift down. It is below my target range already.
And thank you for the answer, I'm taking it you may be a leading if not the leading voice on chemistry/parameters
 
And thank you for the answer, I'm taking it you may be a leading if not the leading voice on chemistry/parameters

I mean, he has his own chemistry forum here for a reason. =)

I don't think everyone always agrees with Randy on everything, but you should always pay attention to what he says. He knows what he's talking about. =)

Remove your phosguard and test daily to see how your phosphates move. You can definitely survive higher phosphates, but if the phosguard is keeping phosphate growth in check you may need to find another way to fine-tune your removal to keep your phosphates at ideal levels. Rowaphos is a good alternative here, especially if you're using a canister filter as opposed to sumps and reactors.

With regards to your sand - hard to see from the picture, but the spots kind of look like dinos to me, which often take hold when your nitrates/phosphates are low. If you want clean sand, I'd recommend three things:

First, get your phosphates up a bit and see how those spots on your sand progress. Wait and see, basically.

Second, you can get a bit more flow around the sand bed, but that's a tricky thing to get right. Too much flow and you can over-agitate the sand, leading to sand mountains and (depending on how long your tank has been running) the release of nasty chemicals like hydrogen sulfide. So if you do this, go slow and adjust a little bit at a time.

Third, get in some livestock that will churn up your sand bed a little. Conches are great at this. Sand-sifting gobies are good, sometimes too good. Hermits and emerald crabs, also good. Nassarius snails also do this a little bit, but not as well as you might think.

Finally, over time your sandbed is likely to be colonized by all manner of microfauna. Once these get established, they basically keep the sandbed clean better than anything else.
 
I mean, he has his own chemistry forum here for a reason. =)

I don't think everyone always agrees with Randy on everything, but you should always pay attention to what he says. He knows what he's talking about. =)

Remove your phosguard and test daily to see how your phosphates move. You can definitely survive higher phosphates, but if the phosguard is keeping phosphate growth in check you may need to find another way to fine-tune your removal to keep your phosphates at ideal levels. Rowaphos is a good alternative here, especially if you're using a canister filter as opposed to sumps and reactors.

With regards to your sand - hard to see from the picture, but the spots kind of look like dinos to me, which often take hold when your nitrates/phosphates are low. If you want clean sand, I'd recommend three things:

First, get your phosphates up a bit and see how those spots on your sand progress. Wait and see, basically.

Second, you can get a bit more flow around the sand bed, but that's a tricky thing to get right. Too much flow and you can over-agitate the sand, leading to sand mountains and (depending on how long your tank has been running) the release of nasty chemicals like hydrogen sulfide. So if you do this, go slow and adjust a little bit at a time.

Third, get in some livestock that will churn up your sand bed a little. Conches are great at this. Sand-sifting gobies are good, sometimes too good. Hermits and emerald crabs, also good. Nassarius snails also do this a little bit, but not as well as you might think.

Finally, over time your sandbed is likely to be colonized by all manner of microfauna. Once these get established, they basically keep the sandbed clean better than anything else.
Awesome! And yes thanks again to you and Randy Holmes for taking the time to reply. All of what you said makes perfect sense, i recently did switch from 55 to 75 so I will be patient and maybe remove some or all phos guard when I open up canister. Sump is my next goal!
 
Agreed and thank you, should I consider removing the phosguard and see where things stay at. I am running a canister so a bit of a pain.

I definitely would remove any phosphate binders. In my tank, I'd dose phosphate at that level.
 
I agree with bluemon.
Personally I've never tried for a balance between N and P because I don't think it really matters or at least not in my tanks.

EDIT: Corals look good so I wouldn't be changing things trying to get pristine sand.

Yes to both above and if you want cleaner sand, up your CUC that sand sift!
 
I haven't changed anything or pulled out my phos guard but I worked tonight and I checked phosphates at .06 and nitrates at 10.5 so guess I'm gonna let it ride
 

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