High End?

[Daniel@R2R Verified Admin]

Interesting discussion for sure!

 

[KJoFan]

I don't disagree with anything here but I have to wonder how "high end" is any different than the packs you sell and sometimes call out one or two that are "worth more than the pack". Isn't the essentially the same as calling them high end? It's all about the price they can fetch.

So, you're right, you have a bunch of high end stuff, you just don't call it that.

 

[JasReef]

I think these kinds of terms develop in any source chain business like the coral industry. The direct to consumer seller gets the pleasure of playing the labling game in order to help move product. Some sellers choose to sell coral under its scientific name but not many and it seems that it is due in part to the difficulty in classifying species correctly. Other sellers choose the names that associate to themes, like super hero's or crazy names that are catchy. I think any seller who names corals is already putting a moniker of high end through the act of naming them.

I like to buy local whenever possible so you can see what you are getting but it is nice to bring pieces in from the inter webs from other areas to help diversify local stock. Grow them up and then trade locally.

Gary, your corals are high end, names and all. 3 weeks later and the color is only getting better on every coral I got from you. I imagine you blast them with light to get those beautiful pale colors. Looks like zeospur corals, which I find awesome!

 

[Beej1254]

I'm really not a fan of the high end coral game. Too often do I see the super saturated pictures of tiny frags and people drooling over them. All I want is a picture under low actinics so I can see the true coral and no modification to the photo. I can't bring myself to pay out hundreds of dollars for a small clipping of a frag which may or may not stay that way, or will RTN for no reason.

This isn't a "high end" acro, and it actually started out as a plain green frag with no branches. Easily one of my favorites now. Picture under 25% white channel, 1% blues. I just want to see what the frags REALLY look like.

 

[lou dog420]

Its just crap!! All of the "high end" corals that I've seen don't look natural, or like something that you would actually see on a reef. Its all about the $$$!!

 

[luke33]

Thanks for the response and I do agree with all. I do see what people mean when they have names that have become well known. But some of these are just insane pictures and that has been proven, a WD thread that was current here on R2R is a fine example. Before LEDs hit the market hard vendors were called out for insanely saturated pictures. Now it has become the norm, maybe because most people have LEDs and can replicate that color by cranking up the blues.
I purchased some LED's just a couple weeks back. Placed them over one of my tanks and BOOOOM everything glowed like the pictures I see on facebook and the interweb. I just don't know if I can bring myself to all blue pictures. But I suppose suppose you either keep up with the change or get stuck in the past..

So the coral that are mainly taken under all blues or with filters topping the list of whats considered High End? If so, I have of butt load of high end coral and didn't even know it. Guess I'll have to give it a try.. ;)

First you say you finally got led's and then i see you have looked on the "interweb"........who are you!!!

 

[luke33]

Pics have gone from MH to T5 actinic to blue led to orange gel filter blue led...........its redonculous how ignorant this has gotten when it comes to selling corals.

I mean blue led is one thing but orange gel filter blue led.....come on

 

[McMullen]

Great Thread!

 

[Sabellafella]

Pics have gone from MH to T5 actinic to blue led to orange gel filter blue led...........its redonculous how ignorant this has gotten when it comes to selling corals.

I mean blue led is one thing but orange gel filter blue led.....come on

Then to top it all off, the pictures some people take, have absolutely no detail to them whatsoever. Flossing a gel filter photo of something thats blurry lol

 

[truepercs]

I can't even afford a frag of the frag...
Hmmm... "Micro frags..." The new low cost alternative to frags...

Now that 200 dollar frag can be cut up and sold for 15.00-25.00 and can bring in $400.00 sold as MicroFrags. In 5 years we can own a frag ;)

I am with you on the blue photos... If it does not look good under regular white lights I don't want it. I picked up a couple zoas in a trade. Brown in white lights, in the morning or evening as the lights go down they do show some colors. IMO I want the tank to look nice all day, any glow under blue is icing on the cake. I would like to have a few of the nicer coral... I just have to wait for the prices to drop.

I own flat screen TV's I just had to wait for prices to drop. Remember when the first one came out and it was $14,000.00 A few years later and it was affordable.

 

[Liquid360]

I think you guys don't give the buyers enough credit. Not everyone with money is stupid and taken advantage of. It's ALL supply/demand. All there is to it. I can't afford the high end stuff myself and envy those you can. Almost nobody is taken in by oversaturated photos. You see them and know dang well what to expect. If you expect an over the top glowing Coral under white light, you haven't done your research. It's just marketing just like EVERYTHING else in the world. I just get rubbed the wrong way when people think others are just suckers. It's naive.

 

[40B Knasty]

My green hair algae is so high end it has turned brown! It is so rare to get it this brown.. Hahaha who wants a frag. $200 a piece.

 

[truepercs]

Wow you have a rare California Blueberry on the vine in the summertime acro?;Nailbiting
People pay up for those... :D

 

[Mmbra]

To me high end means it will die as soon as i get it in the tank! Payed a pretty penny for the torch on my avatar and it died in a week. Regular green torch is growing like a weed!

 

[Beej1254]

Wow you have a rare California Blueberry on the vine in the summertime acro?;Nailbiting
People pay up for those... :D

I was totally thinking about fragging my frag and selling the nubs for $250 each.

In all seriousness though I love this acro

 

[truepercs]

It's a beautiful coral. Heck it's a colony now. Let it grow!

 

[40B Knasty]

To me high end means it will die as soon as i get it in the tank! Payed a pretty penny for the torch on my avatar and it died in a week. Regular green torch is growing like a weed!

I have two gold torches like your avatar doing well. One was $35 the other $50. Now the one I spent $95 on almost got melted from chemi pure elite. It did completely melt a yellow and blue tip hammer though..

 

[Keepswiming]

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[enthejungle]

I've got some high end GSP and button polyps if anyone is interested.

 

[Kzoo]

I think some of the so called high end coral is harder to find and keep but if you are a major coral vendor you can almost create a demand by not selling to much of a certain coral. Kind of like diamonds o_O
But if people are willing to pay those prices more power to them.