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Hey guys sadly got this dead coral in the mail but on the plus side I got this zoa anyone have a clue as to what it would be close to?

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Looks like some variant of captain jerk, hardy coral and very fast grower (can actually become invasive so best left on an a rock island away from your main rock work if you don’t want to be pruning it constantly.
I was thinking some varient of people eatter? This is my first zoa so I don't really know what I'm talking about lok
 
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Looks like some variant of captain jerk, hardy coral and very fast grower (can actually become invasive so best left on an a rock island away from your main rock work if you don’t want to be pruning it constantly.
Also I just looked that up and the color seems similar but the lashes are shorter and stubbier?
 
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Also on another note the coral this came in on is dead. Could it be possible that the zoa released toxin and killed the coral in the close quarters in the shipping bag?
 

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Zoanthid and Palythoa tentacles vary with tank conditions. I would say it's a variant of captain jerk palys, just with short tentacles at the moment. The tentacle length might change as it gets used to your tank environment.
 

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Also on another note the coral this came in on is dead. Could it be possible that the zoa released toxin and killed the coral in the close quarters in the shipping bag?
Not a bad guess. Low water volume and a little muck from a paly wouldn’t be great for the other coral. As a note- not all palys have palytoxin but all palys have a defense mucus that could harm an adjacent coral.
 
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Not a bad guess. Low water volume and a little muck from a paly wouldn’t be great for the other coral. As a note- not all palys have palytoxin but all palys have a defense mucus that could harm an adjacent coral.
So on the note of the toxin. The reason I haven't gotten into zoa's/plays is for the reason of the toxin. I have young children and dogs. I also live in a very small house with no real (prep/work area) so the chance of me having to frag these and some toxin get on something that the family has access to worries me. Is it that bad? I have watched countless videos and it's crazy how half the people arnt using any ppe have the coral out in the air and are going full freddy kruegar on the polyps. Am I being overly cautious
 

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So on the note of the toxin. The reason I haven't gotten into zoa's/plays is for the reason of the toxin. I have young children and dogs. I also live in a very small house with no real (prep/work area) so the chance of me having to frag these and some toxin get on something that the family has access to worries me. Is it that bad? I have watched countless videos and it's crazy how half the people arnt using any ppe have the coral out in the air and are going full freddy kruegar on the polyps. Am I being overly cautious
Toxins no good but as long as it is not cut or mishandled, no worries. Run chemipure blue when keeping paly/zoa which will abdsorb toxins.
 

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There is a bunch on r2r documenting palytoxins by professionals; it deserves awareness but can be over dramatized. With the appropriate precautions, you can safely enjoy zoas & palys; it is my understanding most of the colorful ones we want in our tanks do not carry palytoxins- any tank that has zoas should have carbon on hand- not for the humans but for the other corals.
 
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There is a bunch on r2r documenting palytoxins by professionals; it deserves awareness but can be over dramatized. With the appropriate precautions, you can safely enjoy zoas & palys; it is my understanding most of the colorful ones we want in our tanks do not carry palytoxins- any tank that has zoas should have carbon on hand- not for the humans but for the other corals.
So carbon or chemipure blue?
 

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So carbon or chemipure blue?
I keep carbon on hand to remove impurities from the water. I cannot speak to chemipure as I’ve never used it though I imagine it is a mix of carbon and other things for phosphates.
 

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I admittedly don’t use gloves or glasses when I frag zoas, but I definitely should. As mentioned above, not all zoas/palys actually have the Palytoxin. Even if they do have the toxin, as long as the zoas aren’t being disturbed, it’s not an issue. :)
 
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I admittedly don’t use gloves or glasses when I frag zoas, but I definitely should. As mentioned above, not all zoas/palys actually have the Palytoxin. Even if they do have the toxin, as long as the zoas aren’t being disturbed, it’s not an issue. :)
Haha so cutting in them isn't disturbing them?
 

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Haha so cutting in them isn't disturbing them?
It is, but if you do it gently, you can reduce the amount of stress you put on them. If you’re prodding and poking them, trying to find the right angle to cut, it could cause more stress, increasing the chance of toxins
 

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