How did everyone make out at RAP?

the way i see it, im spending $50 in gas in entry fees and gas. Thats the cost of shipping for pieces online. Dont get me wrong, I love supporting the event but I have to look out for myself too.

I will say that there is a huge advantage to being able to see the piece you are buying in person vs an online pic.
 
I had a great time, especially meeting everyone from R2R, but I'm with those that said that most did not have prices listed, and while I'm sure prices could be negotiated and would fall the closer you get to Sunday evening, but I still found that annoying. I would have liked to see more labels and pricing to avoid the constant "how much is that". I think part of the reason they don't label things is so they can make up a price off the top of their head for whoever they are taking to at the time.

But again, I had a great time, and we are already planning on going next year 🙂 I hope to see you all there!
Never been to rap but I sell frags at local swaps as a hobbyist. This is accurate for me, I make up the prices as I go, if people have asked the price on a particular piece like more than 5 times and it didn’t sell, the next person to ask might get a lower price. Also it’s a pain to try and label them all with prices and requires more planning than I am willing to do as an hobbyist. Because I make them up on the fly based on my experience and history, sometimes they are too high and I have to make adjustments or occasionally low and people get a deal. And I also want people to talk to me and ask questions, it’s part of what I enjoy about swaps. Not just look at the prices and walk on.
 
Never been to rap but I sell frags at local swaps as a hobbyist. This is accurate for me, I make up the prices as I go, if people have asked the price on a particular piece like more than 5 times and it didn’t sell, the next person to ask might get a lower price. Also it’s a pain to try and label them all with prices and requires more planning than I am willing to do as an hobbyist. Because I make them up on the fly based on my experience and history, sometimes they are too high and I have to make adjustments or occasionally low and people get a deal. And I also want people to talk to me and ask questions, it’s part of what I enjoy about swaps. Not just look at the prices and walk on.
I do get that for sure! Thanks for your reply!
 
I understand some stuff is outrageous. I truly do and no need for me to expound on that. Don't get me wrong. But that's every hobby, every business, everything on the whole dang planet! Can you believe we pay for water in bottles? HAHA!

I remember when bottled water started to become a thing and I saw it in the grocery store with my wife and we talked about who was ever going to buy bottled water like that. Now my wife will only drink "the best" bottled water. 🥲

There is a story out there about 50 Cent and Vitamin Water and why he got a good chunk of Vitamin Water as part of his deal. He couldn’t believe people would pay for water either 😂

(Maybe that’s all rumor but it’s a fun story. I can’t remember which podcast talked about it)
 
This was my fourth RAP and it was very enjoyable. There is something magical about being surrounded by creatures that you love and the people who also love them. When I come across a booth with no prices I just assume I can’t afford them. Picked up 6 frags for $50 and a hammer for $25. What really surprises me is the lack of hardware at the show .
 
First of all, I'm bummed I didn't get to meet you and get a Hewbie sticker!
I was hoping you would reply to my comment. But me too!:( I can definitely send you one and is there any chance you are going to Aquashella?
 
They don’t display prices at rap? I’ve never been to one
Not everyone honestly I’d say a majority of vendors don’t put prices up or only pice half of their inventory. It’s not the way to run a both imo and experience. I have done craft shows before and always had things labeled granted that people would still ask what the prices of things were lol.
 
I also noticed very few booths with listed prices, but they were all willing to barter with those who asked.

I assumed it was a strategy to determine a buyer's interest so they could convince you to bundle several at a time.
Oh absolutely I negotiate everything unless I already like the price lol!
 
I was hoping you would reply to my comment. But me too!:( I can definitely send you one and is there any chance you are going to Aquashella?
Not likely, unfortunately, but definitely another show at some point, we had fun!
 
the way i see it, im spending $50 in gas in entry fees and gas. Thats the cost of shipping for pieces online. Dont get me wrong, I love supporting the event but I have to look out for myself too.

I will say that there is a huge advantage to being able to see the piece you are buying in person vs an online pic.
I can vouch for this. I think it really is nice to see what you are buying in person, and really know what you are getting. When you buy online, you take a chance with the coral being shipped, it being the right piece, etc Nothing against online businesses at all, but that is just the risk you take with having live goods shipped to you.
 
Im seeing a trend annually with few discounts, in

Im seeing a trend annually with few discounts, in fact either increased or inflated prices. We either pay or say nay. Years ago, a highlight of these shows were the discounts and deals and are slowly fading away
Meh…

What you’re seeing is a trend of the economy. You can argue the same point in the grocery store. It’s not fair to specifically point to our industry as the problem.

Yes I’m bias towards this industry but I also know how dang hard these men and women work and the increasing costs that they incur as well.

Heck as a forum platform we face it consistently! Rising costs for servers, software, email etc… Seems like we get a cost increase email weekly for some service we use to run the community here. Not to mention the increasing cost of living for those that work for us.

My point is….the industry is not solely to blame. Yes we share in some of the blame but as a whole we’re all just trying to make it!
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with “what you’re seeing is the trend in the economy”. Aquarium, especially the saltwater aquarium industry, is increasing their prices of everything at a much faster rate than anything I’ve ever seen before *cough coralvue cough*. They use tariffs and inflation as an excuse to price gouge us. PS5 was $399 in 2020 and it’s still the same price 5 years later… Abyzz A100 was $1,699 in 2020 and it’s now 2,199. Sorry but inflation hasn’t gone up 30% in 5 years.
 
I forgot to mention that the only thing I bought at the show was a RAP NY shirt and snacks. I honestly didn’t have much time to shop (only stayed saturday), but that wasn’t the goal anyway. I did manage to get some footage for a video though.
 
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with “what you’re seeing is the trend in the economy”. Aquarium, especially the saltwater aquarium industry, is increasing their prices of everything at a much faster rate than anything I’ve ever seen before *cough coralvue cough*. They use tariffs and inflation as an excuse to price gouge us. PS5 was $399 in 2020 and it’s still the same price 5 years later… Abyzz A100 was $1,699 in 2020 and it’s now 2,199. Sorry but inflation hasn’t gone up 30% in 5 years.

PS5 is selling 10s of millions of units. Abyzz is selling 10s. Not even remotely the same. Sony also makes money a million different ways off a PS5. Abyzz doesn't make money after the purchase
 
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with “what you’re seeing is the trend in the economy”. Aquarium, especially the saltwater aquarium industry, is increasing their prices of everything at a much faster rate than anything I’ve ever seen before *cough coralvue cough*. They use tariffs and inflation as an excuse to price gouge us. PS5 was $399 in 2020 and it’s still the same price 5 years later… Abyzz A100 was $1,699 in 2020 and it’s now 2,199. Sorry but inflation hasn’t gone up 30% in 5 years.

PS5 is selling 10s of millions of units. Abyzz is selling 10s. Not even remotely the same. Sony also makes money a million different ways off a PS5. Abyzz doesn't make money after the purchase
I was providing a simple example, not the end all be all. I’ll give you another example. I was a gymnast for 18 years, and you could argue men’s gymnastics is a smaller industry than reefing. Yet, high bar grips have maybe gone up from $54 to a whopping $58 in the last decade. Every college athlete, including myself, only used a specific grip made by one German company because they made the best and there really aren’t any good alternatives. Reichelsport could’ve said “sorry fellas, we gonna charge $75+ now because uhhhhh tariffs and inflation” but they don’t.
 
From the few booths I got to visit, the coral prices were absolutely ridiculous. Then when asked about the ASK price, it was laughable. You could tell some were ashamed to even say the price
Those table fees were ridiculous too, I think that had a lot to do with it. It would cost 2-3k just to show up to sell with travel expenses figured in.
Sounds like an opportunity for someone else to step into this vendor and trade show Market??
 
I think the reefing crowd still holds the advantage, but they gotta be strategic sometimes. Usually the first part of a show offers unique pieces not normally found (and probably at a premium) in the hobby. Then toward the end of the show is where some vendors start to panic that they aren’t gonna be in the black enough. That’s where the deals can be had the most, imo.
I saw that very few people were willing to barter.

Still I'm curious what kind of deals people were getting in the past. As I said, RAP prices were leagues better than local and online. Only slightly above hobbyist to hobbyist prices.
Not where I am in Northern virginia. Buying locally I always seem to get bigger pieces for much better prices than anything online. Seems like online you pay $60 or more for a single zoa polyp. I've made purchases locally with guys selling the same zoa, but have five polyps for $25, and it's the exact same! I always buy local as much as possible
 
I didn't get to attend, but some of the social media stuff I saw makes me question many vendors out there. The sheer amount of bright white frag plugs I saw was shameful, especially on acros.
 

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