I can't figure out what's wrong with my fish

[Jay Hemdal]

These are the ingredients

I’m unsure on age, bottle says it’s good for 6 months.

I can have a seachem copper test kit delivered today by Amazon if that’s the best route

That stuff apparently has the same ingredients as Ruby Reef Rally Pro - that works as a dip, but not so well as a constant bath. I think acriflavine breaks down pretty quickly, that product may be too old.

Jay

 

[laezur]

That stuff apparently has the same ingredients as Ruby Reef Rally Pro - that works as a dip, but not so well as a constant bath. I think acriflavine breaks down pretty quickly, that product may be too old.

Jay

Then what do you suggest at this point because I feel like I’m back at square one with this information

I just want to save my fish

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Then what do you suggest at this point because I feel like I’m back at square one with this information

I just want to save my fish

If this product has instructions for using it as a 60 or 90 minute dip, I would do that.
Jay

 

[laezur]

If this product has instructions for using it as a 60 or 90 minute dip, I would do that.
Jay

Okay great! Sounds like a good route to go down for now.

Here’s what I can find: https://www.ntlabs.co.uk/browse-products/indoor/marine/anti-bacterial/ apparently colours the water yellow lol.

Unless you can see any info on there regarding dip I believe I can dip and keep a close eye for stress, try for 60 minutes and then in the fresh

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Okay great! Sounds like a good route to go down for now.

Here’s what I can find: https://www.ntlabs.co.uk/browse-products/indoor/marine/anti-bacterial/ apparently colours the water yellow lol.

Unless you can see any info on there regarding dip I believe I can dip and keep a close eye for stress, try for 60 minutes and then in the fresh

Use the higher dose for the dip….
Jay

 

[vetteguy53081]

Okay great! Sounds like a good route to go down for now.

Here’s what I can find: https://www.ntlabs.co.uk/browse-products/indoor/marine/anti-bacterial/ apparently colours the water yellow lol.

Unless you can see any info on there regarding dip I believe I can dip and keep a close eye for stress, try for 60 minutes and then in the fresh

I assume label shows expiration of January 2023

 

[laezur]

Use the higher dose for the dip….
Jay

Cool! I’ve got some maths to do then LOL I’ll be dipping in a 1 litre container, he’s only a tiny clownfish. I’d do it in the bucket he’s in now but I use it for salt mixing and don’t want to have any chemicals get in the plastic

which is…. 2.2ml right? Christ I could be way off

I assume label shows expiration of January 2023

Yes January 2023 bt the looks of it but it also depends on how long the bottle has been opened I suppose.

 

[laezur]

Correction: 2l of water for 1ml of this stuff.

Last question: Do I ADD the fish to a bath that already contains this? Or do I put the fish in and THEN add the chemicals?

 

[laezur]

I’ve just done a 90 minute bath. They’re going in a sterile quarantine tank I’ve just had setup and been heating and fresh salt water mixed for. Time to keep an eye on them and hope they get better!

Even though the other clownfish wasn’t showing signs or symptoms I opted to take preventative measures and run this treatment on both of them. I’ll keep them both in quarantine for 6 weeks and let the display run fallow.

If both clownfish are alive in 6 weeks am I safe to assume that no parasites, no brook or anything is still present on the fish/in the QT water, or in the display tank?

 

[laezur]

@Jay Hemdal @MnFish1 @vetteguy53081 is it normal for the fish to look worse for wear after the 90 min bath? I put them into the QT and they’re kinda just being a bit lethargic at the bottom of the tank. One is really pale, breathing rapidly (the one that was definitely sick)

 

[Spare time]

Paraguard has worked when I had to treat fish with brook. It contains some aldehyde and malachite green. This might be more available in the future if you need more medicine

 

[laezur]

Paraguard has worked when I had to treat fish with brook. It contains some aldehyde and malachite green. This might be more available in the future if you need more medicine

Awesome thank you I’ll try keep some for future use. My question above about my fish looking like they’re doing worse after a dip, is that normal in your experience?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Awesome thank you I’ll try keep some for future use. My question above about my fish looking like they’re doing worse after a dip, is that normal in your experience?

Sorry - I was asleep before your final posts.....

Most dips are stressful to the fish - in essence, you are poisoning both the fish and the parasite, but are hoping to just kill the parasite. The trouble is, if the fish is very ill, they get poisoned by the dip as well. There is no way around this - if you don't use a dip, the fish will die as well. What you typically see is the fish looks worse right after the dip and then they gradually improve over a day's time. Of course, dips are not a 100% cure and multiple dips will be needed. Dipping and moving into a sterile tank is a bit more effective.

Jay

 

[laezur]

Sorry - I was asleep before your final posts.....

Most dips are stressful to the fish - in essence, you are poisoning both the fish and the parasite, but are hoping to just kill the parasite. The trouble is, if the fish is very ill, they get poisoned by the dip as well. There is no way around this - if you don't use a dip, the fish will die as well. What you typically see is the fish looks worse right after the dip and then they gradually improve over a day's time. Of course, dips are not a 100% cure and multiple dips will be needed. Dipping and moving into a sterile tank is a bit more effective.

Jay

Unfortunately he died overnight. I’m now holding the remaining clownfish in quarantine and will continue to do so for 6 weeks until I’m certain there is no more parasite in the tank or on my fish

 

[laezur]

Sorry - I was asleep before your final posts.....

Most dips are stressful to the fish - in essence, you are poisoning both the fish and the parasite, but are hoping to just kill the parasite. The trouble is, if the fish is very ill, they get poisoned by the dip as well. There is no way around this - if you don't use a dip, the fish will die as well. What you typically see is the fish looks worse right after the dip and then they gradually improve over a day's time. Of course, dips are not a 100% cure and multiple dips will be needed. Dipping and moving into a sterile tank is a bit more effective.

Jay

This is where we are at with the second clownfish.

Breathing a little fast. Unsure if stressed from being in quarantine.

Abrasians on her face I assume are from when she was smacking into my anemone and getting it to host her

she looks lighter in colour than she is because I’m using a flashlight, she actually looks very dark in person

 

[laezur]

Remaining clownfish are very well today but still cautious about her condition

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I was on my phone through the day today, and couldn't view your video. I was able to download it tonight on my desktop. It's breathing a bit fast, but not critically so. Is it still eating?

Jay

 

[laezur]

I was on my phone through the day today, and couldn't view your video. I was able to download it tonight on my desktop. It's breathing a bit fast, but not critically so. Is it still eating?

Jay

The clownfish we were originally treating has died unfortunately overnight. Pulled him out this morning his body was very very pale, lots of slime.

This clownfish in the video I treated based on feedback that I should probably treat both since they spent a short time in the main display together. She was breathing fast as you can see in the video.

I fed her an hour ago, she ate like a pig. She must have eaten 15 pellets or so before she lost interest so I stopped.

I just went to video her now, and I believe this part could be quite crucial (sorry about the bits of food I’m about to clean them out)

But is that…. A worm looking creature of some kind she tries to eat and spits back out?!

I’m about to move her to a new sterile larger quarantine tank for a more long term stay

 

[MnFish1]

@revhtree Can you please get a video upload that works for everyone? Would that be possible with your vendor

 

[laezur]

@revhtree Can you please get a video upload that works for everyone? Would that be possible with your vendor

Lol it would certainly be helpful!