I Was Wrong

[Lavey29]

Oh boy, nothing to see here....move along...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...e-overwhelming-consensus-is-manufactured/amp/

 

[blecki]

I knew a dentist once who said brushing damaged your teeth.

There's a reason Ms. Curry gets trotted out so often; that reason being the dearth of similarly credentialed sources that agree with her...

(The bias of the NYP is in the title. She did not 'admit' anything; she 'claimed'.)

 

[jabberwock]

Your argument thins.

 

[Lavey29]

I knew a dentist once who said brushing damaged your teeth.

There's a reason Ms. Curry gets trotted out so often; that reason being the dearth of similarly credentialed sources that agree with her...

(The bias of the NYP is in the title. She did not 'admit' anything; she 'claimed'.)

Follow the money and you will get scientist's to tell you the earth is flat with supporting data.

Sad part is the flock of dumb sheep around the globe just nod their head in agreement as they continue to slow walk towards the cliff.

 

[jabberwock]

Today I asked a scientist colleague who is a meteorologist if they believed in manmade climate change. His response was, "Maybe, but if so, it would be negligible. The system is immense. There are so many inputs and variables that you could never quantify it. So, if yes, then, it doesn't matter."

Just an informed opinion that is not mine.

 

[Lasse]

I'm curious how the stout defenders of carbon reduction justify the electricity required to operate a marine tank. Even accounting for the possibility of 100% solar, wind, etc, no one seems to deny that these products are not produced in an environmentally friendly way. Running an aquarium is going to be an increased use of energy.

I'm not saying anyone should believe one way or another, but it seems an odd platform to fight over carbon.

Also, I really enjoyed that "ma and pa math" video. Too funny! I disagree with the character slander intended though.

FS

This is an important question. My general point of view is that no one can do all thing that´s needed but many persons can do something - especially the the ones living in rich countries and rich people in the poor countries. On thing is to minimize our CO2 fingerprint as much as possible. We rent a flat - and in Sweden - you can´t install own solar cells if you do not own the property. Instead we bough 6 kW solar cells in an non profit solar cell plant and buy our electricity from them with a discounted price (6 kW produce more than I use during a year) We also have lend them money in value of further 12 Kw solar cells. - I get an interest but it is reinvested in new solar cells I do not own an electric car but the last 25 years - my cars have been small (around 0.55 L/10 km). I use public transport as much as possible. We fly if we must (no other options) but not inside Sweden. And if we fly - we calculate how much extra CO2 emissions our flight cause - and invest in new solar cells in order to compensate our extra emission. I eat meat but picky where the meat originate from.

Per capita CO2 emissions 2022 for US was 14.86 metric ton, Canada 14.3, China 8.05, Sweden 3.2 and India 1.93. OECD better life index 2021 - Sweden at 4:th place, US 8:th and Canada 10:th This means that CO2 emissions is not direct related to welfare - you can have a good life with a low CO2 fingerprint. To live the way me and my wife do create CO2 emissions but its possible to act in a way that minimize the net fingerprint.

Sincerely Lasse

 

[Doctorgori]

whatever the case….
Anything we do in the near future will be a drop in the bucket compared to the current/inevitable methane releases in the Canadian taiga/subarctic

 

[blecki]

Sad part is the flock of dumb sheep around the globe just nod their head in agreement as they continue to slow walk towards the cliff.

One hundred scientists will come by and say the moon is real and they will latch onto the one that turns up and claims the moon is a hologram. You can't argue with that one - because he's a scientist. But all those other scientists? They don't count.

 

[Doctorgori]

One hundred scientists will come by and say the moon is real and they will latch onto the one that turns up and claims the moon is a hologram. You can't argue with that one - because he's a scientist. But all those other scientists? They don't count.

Some are saying now that its hollow,,,,
I was cool when they said it was made of cheese… :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:

 

[blecki]

That's ridiculous. If it was hollow then it would have popped when Armstrong stuck the flag pole in it.

 

[Court_Appointed_Hypeman]

whatever the case….
Anything we do in the near future will be a drop in the bucket compared to the current/inevitable methane releases in the Canadian taiga/subarctic

There really isn't anything we could do now. Even if this was not the case, which it is because of feedback loops, it really would require revolution of the economic system we have, and that can take a million different turns that are not a positive direction for the environment. The only real safe bet is something to stop all resource extraction in it's tracks, and even then, no one with any sort of power will imidiately bennefit in any way from that, which means it will most likely not happen. Not in any sort of amount of time that matters to stop global environmental change at least.

 

[Lavey29]

One hundred scientists will come by and say the moon is real and they will latch onto the one that turns up and claims the moon is a hologram. You can't argue with that one - because he's a scientist. But all those other scientists? They don't count.

They all thought Einstein was a joke too and the sheep of the world continue their march towards the cliff

https://heartland.org/opinion/97-co...nly-59-of-scientists-expect-significant-harm/

 

[Doctorgori]

That's ridiculous. If it was hollow then it would have popped when Armstrong stuck the flag pole in it.

Well what about the alien bases on the dark side? Surely those claims have merit :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes: ;) :face-with-rolling-eyes:
P.S. Neil Armstrong never landed, it was all a Stanley Kubrick movie …heck everyone knows that :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes: :face-with-rolling-eyes:

 

[jabberwock]

This is an important question. My general point of view is that no one can do all thing that´s needed but many persons can do something - especially the the ones living in rich countries and rich people in the poor countries. On thing is to minimize our CO2 fingerprint as much as possible. We rent a flat - and in Sweden - you can´t install own solar cells if you do not own the property. Instead we bough 6 kW solar cells in an non profit solar cell plant and buy our electricity from them with a discounted price (6 kW produce more than I use during a year) We also have lend them money in value of further 12 Kw solar cells. - I get an interest but it is reinvested in new solar cells I do not own an electric car but the last 25 years - my cars have been small (around 0.55 L/10 km). I use public transport as much as possible. We fly if we must (no other options) but not inside Sweden. And if we fly - we calculate how much extra CO2 emissions our flight cause - and invest in new solar cells in order to compensate our extra emission. I eat meat but picky where the meat originate from.

Per capita CO2 emissions 2022 for US was 14.86 metric ton, Canada 14.3, China 8.05, Sweden 3.2 and India 1.93. OECD better life index 2021 - Sweden at 4:th place, US 8:th and Canada 10:th This means that CO2 emissions is not direct related to welfare - you can have a good life with a low CO2 fingerprint. To live the way me and my wife do create CO2 emissions but its possible to act in a way that minimize the net fingerprint.

Sincerely Lasse

My truck is a 2003. It has 255,000 miles on it. It is a hybrid. It burns gas, and oil.

 

[Uncle99]

This is an important question. My general point of view is that no one can do all thing that´s needed but many persons can do something - especially the the ones living in rich countries and rich people in the poor countries. On thing is to minimize our CO2 fingerprint as much as possible. We rent a flat - and in Sweden - you can´t install own solar cells if you do not own the property. Instead we bough 6 kW solar cells in an non profit solar cell plant and buy our electricity from them with a discounted price (6 kW produce more than I use during a year) We also have lend them money in value of further 12 Kw solar cells. - I get an interest but it is reinvested in new solar cells I do not own an electric car but the last 25 years - my cars have been small (around 0.55 L/10 km). I use public transport as much as possible. We fly if we must (no other options) but not inside Sweden. And if we fly - we calculate how much extra CO2 emissions our flight cause - and invest in new solar cells in order to compensate our extra emission. I eat meat but picky where the meat originate from.

Per capita CO2 emissions 2022 for US was 14.86 metric ton, Canada 14.3, China 8.05, Sweden 3.2 and India 1.93. OECD better life index 2021 - Sweden at 4:th place, US 8:th and Canada 10:th This means that CO2 emissions is not direct related to welfare - you can have a good life with a low CO2 fingerprint. To live the way me and my wife do create CO2 emissions but its possible to act in a way that minimize the net fingerprint.

Sincerely Lasse

Many persons can do something!
That’s where it all starts.
If not for us, maybe our children.
That’s my 4 cents.

 

[Lavey29]

My truck is a 2003. It has 255,000 miles on it. It is a hybrid. It burns gas, and oil.

You should get one of these. Go green for the planet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ad-trip-chicago-biggest-scam-modern-times.amp

 

[Kato]

You should get one of these. Go green for the planet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ad-trip-chicago-biggest-scam-modern-times.amp

This thread is probably at the end now I'm guessing. When we get to posting FOX news stories. Next one is likely that EVs burn more often than ICE vehicles. Its a matter of time before we hit Goodwins law

Just for the record. As a European, I usually drive German cars. Loved my BMWs, Mercedes and Audi's. Except 8 years ago I bought my first American EV car ever. American cars not really popular in Europe and I was never a fan. Couldn't be happier. Now it's all I see on my street and town (perhaps 1 in 10). Now it's the most popular car (by sales) in the world. And it's an EV. Pretty cool. Got to create a lot of jobs over there. They should be proud.

 

[blaxsun]

You should get one of these. Go green for the planet.

Yeah, I saw that the other day. Owning an EV today isn't the same as a gas/diesel, and it takes a different mindset/commitment than most people are used to. Shortages of charging infrastructure and issues with charging stations are fairly typical.

 

[Lavey29]

This thread is probably at the end now I'm guessing. When we get to posting FOX news stories. Next one is likely that EVs burn more often than ICE vehicles. Its a matter of time before we hit Goodwins law

Just for the record. As a European, I usually drive German cars. Loved my BMWs, Mercedes and Audi's. Except 8 years ago I bought my first American EV car ever. American cars not really popular in Europe and I was never a fan. Couldn't be happier. Now it's all I see on my street and town (perhaps 1 in 10). Now it's the most popular car (by sales) in the world. And it's an EV. Pretty cool. Got to create a lot of jobs over there. They should be proud.

unfortunately most American made cars are not made in America.

 

[blaxsun]

unfortunately most American made cars are not made in America.

They're still assembled there to get the tax credits though! lol :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing: