Ich on CBB?

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I would probably mix up a test batch of SW and measure out exactly 1 gallon then add Copper safe as directed using a syringe. Then test the water to check your Hanna Tester for accuracy.
 

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Me... the way I roll... (🤓), based on all that you've said, and what I see after 21 days, I'd get the Copper back to where you had it at 2.5-2.7 and go enjoy your short vacation. Best wishes for great success with your beautiful fish.
 
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I would probably mix up a test batch of SW and measure out exactly 1 gallon then add Copper safe as directed using a syringe. Then test the water to check your Hanna Tester for accuracy.
Not a bad idea. I just checked the now empty QT tank and it’s still showing 2.25 despite it being empty for a few days now.

Not a bad idea to calibrate the Hanna.
Me... the way I roll... (🤓), based on all that you've said, and what I see after 21 days, I'd get the Copper back to where you had it at 2.5-2.7 and go enjoy your short vacation. Best wishes for great success with your beautiful fish.
Unfortunately I added him to the DT after 28 days. So no going back into QT at this point unless I bring the whole display. All those spots popped up after a few days in the DT without any medication.
 

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So finished out QT. The two spots I was worried about never expanded in number. However within 3 days of being in the DT he looks like this. Looks pretty firmly like ich to me 😡.

I don’t know how he didn’t show any symptoms for 21 days in therapeutic copper, and the only symptoms were two questionable dots then nothing more. This is really unfortunate. I’m 100% positive I maintained therapeutic copper at a minimum of 2.35 mg/l. More typically it was at 2.5 mg/l. There were no other fish or additions during his QT process. No cross contamination. Nothing.

This now will be the second QT break through I’ve dealt with. First one was velvet that snuck through (that one was probably more so on me) but still. A 72 day fallow period is not fun nor do I know that I can pull it off with space.

The spots are only on the clear portion of the fins. Nothing on the body but looks pretty clearly like ich to me. No other symptoms and still eating well. Haven’t noticed anything on any other tank mates yet.

That last photo is pretty clearly ich. Here is a thought though - with only 3 days in the DT, it would be just like a stage in the "Tank Transfer method" and there wouldn't be any tomonts to cause this much of an influx of ich.

When you move a fish with ich into a clean tank, the ich life cycle is set back quite a bit and it takes time to get this many spots again (two or more cycles). That means that these spots aren't ich, or that these trophonts came from tomonts that were already in your DT.
 
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That last photo is pretty clearly ich. Here is a thought though - with only 3 days in the DT, it would be just like a stage in the "Tank Transfer method" and there wouldn't be any tomonts to cause this much of an influx of ich.

When you move a fish with ich into a clean tank, the ich life cycle is set back quite a bit and it takes time to get this many spots again (two or more cycles). That means that these spots aren't ich, or that these trophonts came from tomonts that were already in your DT.
Interesting ok. All fish have been through 30-45 days of QT with copper and prazi. I didn’t notice any spots on any fish prior to introduction of the CBB. I did however add three fish from an online vendor who quarantines. Not blaming them, but there were three additions that I did not personally QT. Could have possibly come in that way. Those additions were made one week prior to the CBB being added.
 
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I do have some PCR kits from DxAquaria. Im not sure how much stock I put into their precision, but would at least make for a fun opportunity to run a test and see what type of data I get back knowing I have a likely ich break-through in my display.
 

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Interesting ok. All fish have been through 30-45 days of QT with copper and prazi. I didn’t notice any spots on any fish prior to introduction of the CBB. I did however add three fish from an online vendor who quarantines. Not blaming them, but there were three additions that I did not personally QT. Could have possibly come in that way. Those additions were made one week prior to the CBB being added.

But none of those fish have spots? It seems unlikely that they were supporting a large connection without showing some spots…..
 

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