Ich !!!

[ReeferTang44]

I have two quick questions currently I’m dealing with ich and have been using polyp lab reef medic and it is been working well up until today. I see a bunch of spots on my to spot bristle tooth Tang I am curious if doing a water change and vacuuming, the sand will help and if a UV sterilizer would make a difference I have a 100 gallon tank with corals two clown fish and a bicolor blenny what do you think should be my next step?

 

[vetteguy53081]

I have two quick questions currently I’m dealing with ich and have been using polyp lab reef medic and it is been working well up until today. I see a bunch of spots on my to spot bristle tooth Tang I am curious if doing a water change and vacuuming, the sand will help and if a UV sterilizer would make a difference I have a 100 gallon tank with corals two clown fish and a bicolor blenny what do you think should be my next step?

Polyp Lab medic is hit and miss as its a peroxide salt based on peroxide treatments which often dont work long term. Best is to treat either with coppersafe Or hyposalinity (1.009) Water change is advised to remove any cysts in the gravel that are present or have died off.
UV is also helpful but will address what passes through its channel that are free floating and not as misconcepted get the parasites off the fish.
Next best step is quaranting the fish and treat with Coppersafe or Copper Power at therapeutic level 2.25-2.5 For a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored by a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.
The display tank will have to be kept fishless (FALLOW) for 6-8 weeks to assure the existing parasites go through their life cycle without a host fish and die off
A quarantine tank can be as simple as a tank from a second hand store or a starter kit from Walmart which most of the needed essentials.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I have two quick questions currently I’m dealing with ich and have been using polyp lab reef medic and it is been working well up until today. I see a bunch of spots on my to spot bristle tooth Tang I am curious if doing a water change and vacuuming, the sand will help and if a UV sterilizer would make a difference I have a 100 gallon tank with corals two clown fish and a bicolor blenny what do you think should be my next step?

Siphoning the sand every night does help remove the resting stage ich tomonts. A very strong UV can also help, however there is some thought that UV light will break down the peroxides in the poly lab medic.

Jay

 

[ReeferTang44]

Polyp Lab medic is hit and miss as its a peroxide salt based on peroxide treatments which often dont work long term. Best is to treat either with coppersafe Or hyposalinity (1.009) Water change is advised to remove any cysts in the gravel that are present or have died off.
UV is also helpful but will address what passes through its channel that are free floating and not as misconcepted get the parasites off the fish.
Next best step is quaranting the fish and treat with Coppersafe or Copper Power at therapeutic level 2.25-2.5 For a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored by a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.
The display tank will have to be kept fishless (FALLOW) for 6-8 weeks to assure the existing parasites go through their life cycle without a host fish and die off
A quarantine tank can be as simple as a tank from a second hand store or a starter kit from Walmart which most of the needed essentials.

Ok thanks quick question what do you do if you have a sickness in your tank I noticed you have a big tank with a lot of fish

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ok thanks quick question what do you do if you have a sickness in your tank I noticed you have a big tank with a lot of fish

Mine dont get sick as I practice prevention with optimum water quality and diet.
What would I do if it occurred. . . . . . . . Last outbreak I had was velvet about 5 years ago and I took a chance as I was going away for the weekend and used both Polyp Lab Medic and Ruby Rally Pro and miraculously beat in in 4 days but continued treatment for another week. This is not a typical treatment but shows " Prayer works".
If Ich- I would likely have to do daily 50% water changes until eradicated - Thank goodness, I have 8 buckets of salt to accomplish this.

 

[ReeferTang44]

Mine dont get sick as I practice prevention with optimum water quality and diet.
What would I do if it occurred. . . . . . . . Last outbreak I had was velvet about 5 years ago and I took a chance as I was going away for the weekend and used both Polyp Lab Medic and Ruby Rally Pro and miraculously beat in in 4 days but continued treatment for another week. This is not a typical treatment but shows " Prayer works".
If Ich- I would likely have to do daily 50% water changes until eradicated - Thank goodness, I have 8 buckets of salt to accomplish this.

Should I also be using rally

 

[vetteguy53081]

Should I also be using rally

because it was velvet, I used Rally but rally does not address ich, but being reef safe, you have nothing to lose.

 

[ReeferTang44]

because it was velvet, I used Rally but rally does not address ich, but being reef safe, you have nothing to lose.

Yeah another problem I what is going on with my bicolor

 

[ReeferTang44]

Yeah another problem I what is going on with my bicolor

 

[ReeferTang44]

There is like a scratch mark or something

 

[jmichaelh7]

There is like a scratch mark or something

Most likely scratching from the parasites embedded inside skin.

Are you planning on pulling the fish and running qt like vette guy mentioned

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yeah another problem I what is going on with my bicolor

Pics very dark and fuzzy- cant see a thing. Please repost under white lighting only and assure both the tank glass and camera lens are clean

 

[ReeferTang44]

Most likely scratching from the parasites embedded inside skin.

Are you planning on pulling the fish and running qt like vette guy mentioned

If I can catch them I will

 

[jmichaelh7]

If I can catch them I will

My Midas blenny was in terrible condition , scratching , keeping head almost above water. I honestly didn’t think he was going to make it but he’s in quarantine now and now swimming and perching in the tank. Unfortunately there were some that didn’t make it, including my 4 year old blenny. That hurt a lot. But it’s best to save them while you can or use other methods if you’re willing. Good luck bro

 

[ReeferTang44]

Pics very dark and fuzzy- cant see a thing. Please repost under white lighting only and assure both the tank glass and camera lens are clean

I’ll try soon

 

[ReeferTang44]

Ok so let’s say I catch my 2 clowns , bicolor, and two spot can they qt in twenty gallon along with my fire fish and 2 chromis that are already in there with copper

 

[ReeferTang44]

 

[ReeferTang44]

Could I put all them in there and how long would I put them in there

 

[jmichaelh7]

Could I put all them in there and how long would I put them in there

What copper are you using

 

[ReeferTang44]

What copper are you using

Copper power