Indonesia’s coral ban ?

[stacksoner]

hello sorry cannot disclose,sorry

Lol-If you make a claim, you have to provide evidence to support it. Otherwise, it's BS.

 

[fishguy242]

Lol-If you make a claim, you have to provide evidence to support it. Otherwise, it's crap.

 

[fishguy242]

all i can say

 

[Surfzone]

All the nice gemmiferas I remember & own came from Fiji, anyway. They're not coming back.

I wouldn't count Fiji out. After talking to Walt Smith at MACNA he was saying that they may be allowing coral shipments again. I'm not sure if he was talking about all corals or just cultured corals, but it is something that coral farmers there have been fighting for, but this is all still speculation. I hope Fiji will open back up again even if it is just for cultured corals. From what I understand is that the government there has no idea how corals work and don't believe that fragging a colony can make more coral, and that is how farms like Walt's make their product. I haven't heard much about Fiji lately but maybe we'll see what happens. It sounds like education is what the government there needs. Now that Indonesia is starting to open back up again perhaps Fiji will change their tune.

 

[Graffiti Spot]

They were probably referencing the statement about indo not selling wilds for ten years.

 

[SeaDweller]

all i can say

What does that prove? You have access to a list, everyone could have back then, and probably still can now. The claim about wilds not being collected until 2030 was the statement in question from someone else.

 

[fishguy242]

What does that prove? You have access to a list, everyone could have back then, and probably still can now. The claim about wilds not being collected until 2030 was the statement in question from someone else.

true sorry

 

[Graffiti Spot]

I wouldn't count Fiji out. After talking to Walt Smith at MACNA he was saying that they may be allowing coral shipments again. I'm not sure if he was talking about all corals or just cultured corals, but it is something that coral farmers there have been fighting for, but this is all still speculation. I hope Fiji will open back up again even if it is just for cultured corals. From what I understand is that the government there has no idea how corals work and don't believe that fragging a colony can make more coral, and that is how farms like Walt's make their product. I haven't heard much about Fiji lately but maybe we'll see what happens. It sounds like education is what the government there needs. Now that Indonesia is starting to open back up again perhaps Fiji will change their tune.

Yea if I had to guess, figi won’t stay closed forever. I do miss their wild shipments the most. My favorite corals in my tank are wilds from there that I haven’t seen for a long time.

 

[SeaDweller]

Yea if I had to guess, figi won’t stay closed forever. I do miss their wild shipments the most. My favorite corals in my tank are wilds from there that I haven’t seen for a long time.

So... time to upload a pic of that mythical tank or what??? I gave you 6 mos since I last asked you!!!

 

[andrewkw]

I wouldn't count Fiji out. After talking to Walt Smith at MACNA he was saying that they may be allowing coral shipments again. I'm not sure if he was talking about all corals or just cultured corals, but it is something that coral farmers there have been fighting for, but this is all still speculation. I hope Fiji will open back up again even if it is just for cultured corals. From what I understand is that the government there has no idea how corals work and don't believe that fragging a colony can make more coral, and that is how farms like Walt's make their product. I haven't heard much about Fiji lately but maybe we'll see what happens. It sounds like education is what the government there needs. Now that Indonesia is starting to open back up again perhaps Fiji will change their tune.

I have seen (online) fiji soft corals again for sale from one vendor in Canada. I would be happy to just get a new really yellow leather.

 

[Graffiti Spot]

I will upload some phone pics tonight and give a general breakdown of the tank I am running now. I will put it in a new thread.

 

[stacksoner]

What does that prove? You have access to a list, everyone could have back then, and probably still can now. The claim about wilds not being collected until 2030 was the statement in question from someone else.

His reply proves even less than access to a list. All it proves is that he has access to Microsoft Excel.

 

[fishguy242]

sorry guys not here for debates here to help,

 

[stacksoner]

sorry guys not here for debates here to help,

Here is a photo and link to an article from this month about current mariculture facilities in Indonesia. Think about how ridiculous your comment is about them not being able to harvest these for export for another 10 years.

A New Indonesian Coral Farmer Association is Born! | Reef Builders | The Reef and Saltwater Aquarium Blog

It’s been eight months since the export of corals from Indonesia has stopped – eight months of heavy confusion, misinformation, and general disarray, but what is it all about, and what’s going on?

reefbuilders.com

 

[myzislow]

According to dr. Mac

“Word from same supplier:

Every wild corals price will be up around 30-40% from last time 2018 price”

If that is true they are going to be pricy pieces then. Up there with Aussie prices and most likely not as large. Better than nothing though that’s for sure. I am sure there will be a few things we haven’t seen for a while being sent out.

Of course he said that. His prices have always been high, even pre ban.

 

[fishguy242]

mariculture farm, i only said wild

 

[myzislow]

AC?

 

[fishguy242]

mc

 

[myzislow]

If you grease the right hands with enough paper in your hands, anything is possible...

Hey, let's leave politics out of this lol

 

[Graffiti Spot]

Of course he said that. His prices have always been high, even pre ban.

I hear you. I live driving distance to there and have never been because I don’t think prices or selection from them is good enough for the drive. But he was not referring to his corals he was commenting on prices in general, we will see what happens soon though. Once people actually start selling colonies.