Is peroxide dosing safe for a sea hare?

[Alpha_and_Gec]

I want to start dosing hydrogen peroxide as a general pesticide(primarily against hair algae, excess chaeto, and dinoflagellates), but I don't want to kill my new sea hare, who is doing very good work on excess algae and is incredibly adorable. Is it safe for me to dose peroxide? Is there a maximum dose that I can use to kill things without damaging the bunny?

 

[BairCorals]

Hydrogen peroxide is also a form of carbon dosing, so it can cause bacteria blooms and bottom out nutrients so it's pretty important to be very conservative of dosing it. It is safe as long as it's done to the right amount, which ive been told is 1ml of 3% peroxide for every 10gal (not guaranteing as i dont do it). Carbon dosing can also feed bad bacteria so it could bring up cyano if you had a small amount somewhere which most of us do. So if you want to use it to spot treat stuff, that'd be totally fine. But just dosing because of what could happen? I wouldn't. Just my personal opinion of course

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

Hydrogen peroxide is also a form of carbon dosing, so it can cause bacteria blooms and bottom out nutrients so it's pretty important to be very conservative of dosing it. It is safe as long as it's done to the right amount, which ive been told is 1ml of 3% peroxide for every 10gal (not guaranteing as i dont do it). Carbon dosing can also feed bad bacteria so it could bring up cyano if you had a small amount somewhere which most of us do. So if you want to use it to spot treat stuff, that'd be totally fine. But just dosing because of what could happen? I wouldn't. Just my personal opinion of course

How does peroxide increase carbon? It'll be applied alongside nitrate dosing so bacterial consequences should be fine, but the molecule itself doesn't contain carbon.

 

[TangerineSpeedo]

You bought a sea hare whose diet is made up of primarily algae and you want to eradicate its food source, effectively starving it to death. And you are asking if dosing peroxide will harm it...
I will let you think think about that for a bit.

 

[BairCorals]

Just look up carbon dosing and you'll understand what I'm saying... but I'd say just don't do it unless you're just spot treating hair algea. And don't go over 1ml per 10gal. Otherwise you'll have a cloudy mess of a tank and your ph will plumet.

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

You bought a sea hare whose diet is made up of primarily algae and you want to eradicate its food source, effectively starving it to death. And you are asking if dosing peroxide will harm it...
I will let you think think about that for a bit.

I am asking if the peroxide will directly damage it. I don't worry about its food source because it's not intended to stay in my tank after the issue is resolved.

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

Just look up carbon dosing and you'll understand what I'm saying... but I'd say just don't do it unless you're just spot treating hair algea. And don't go over 1ml per 10gal. Otherwise you'll have a cloudy mess of a tank and your ph will plumet.

I read some articles on carbon dosing but did not see hydrogen peroxide mentioned. What is the mechanism by which this function?

 

[BairCorals]

My bad I had gone down a rabbit hole on a completely different thing. I don't get much sleep..

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

Also, does anyone know if the brand of bacteria makes a difference when trying to introduce competitors to dinoflagellates? Are there species that work better than others?

 

[BairCorals]

I think just dosing some bacteria can help. Don't think you can get individual bacteria colonies as far as I know. And sorry about the carbon dosing part I really don't know what I was thinking about. But the correct dose for h2o2 is 1ml per 10gal, I know that much.
Microbactor is what I've herd used to try and outcompete with cyano and dinos. Reefbum was doing that for a good while I believe

 

[Tavero]

I want to start dosing hydrogen peroxide as a general pesticide(primarily against hair algae, excess chaeto, and dinoflagellates), but I don't want to kill my new sea hare, who is doing very good work on excess algae and is incredibly adorable. Is it safe for me to dose peroxide? Is there a maximum dose that I can use to kill things without damaging the bunny?

Dosing peroxide does nothing against hair algae. Been there, done that. The concentration needed for that would be around 0.3% which would also kill everything else. You need to inject the peroxide directly into the turf while the flow is off. Or scrub the stone outside of the tank with at least 3%, higher is better.
UV was far more efficient against dinos than any safe amount of peroxide I tried in my tank.

Btw peroxide doesn't contain carbon. It's H2O2.

 

[gbroadbridge]

I want to start dosing hydrogen peroxide as a general pesticide(primarily against hair algae, excess chaeto, and dinoflagellates), but I don't want to kill my new sea hare, who is doing very good work on excess algae and is incredibly adorable. Is it safe for me to dose peroxide? Is there a maximum dose that I can use to kill things without damaging the bunny?

I would not dose an oxidising agent like H2O2 to any tank containing animals.

It is a current fad for sure.

If you wish to use it against algae, use it outside the tank.

 

[gbroadbridge]

Hydrogen peroxide is also a form of carbon dosing, so it can cause bacteria blooms and bottom out nutrients so it's pretty important to be very conservative of dosing it. It is safe as long as it's done to the right amount, which ive been told is 1ml of 3% peroxide for every 10gal (not guaranteing as i dont do it). Carbon dosing can also feed bad bacteria so it could bring up cyano if you had a small amount somewhere which most of us do. So if you want to use it to spot treat stuff, that'd be totally fine. But just dosing because of what could happen? I wouldn't. Just my personal opinion of course

Hydrogen peroxide is not in any way similar to carbon dosing.
It contains no carbon.

 

[BairCorals]

Hydrogen peroxide is not in any way similar to carbon dosing.
It contains no carbon.

Ive stated that after the fact. Idk what I was thinking at 2am lol

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I’d also not try to dose so much hydrogen peroxide that it killed chaeto. Sounds like it could irritate lots of organisms at such a high dose.