IV bag to drip Brightwell PhosphateE

[DW66]

My tanks has had perpetually high Phosphate. It’s currently at 0.85, and I think it’s affecting my Zoas and Euphillia.

I’ve got phosban in bags in the sump, and I added an Algae Rector to the system last week. I would like to dose Phosphate E, but I’ve read some concerning things about it and Tangs, and I don’t want to lose my Sailfin.

I know some people dose and then run 5micron filter socks, but I have a roller mat. Ditched the filter socks long ago.

My plan was to drip the recommended dose (mixed with rodi water) into my sump, right by the skimmer but I don’t have any dosing pumps. So I thought what about something like an IV bag as a dosing mechanism? I can’t seem to find empty IV bags though. Anyone know where to aquire a refillable IV bag?

 

[Pistondog]

This is what i use for that purpose. I drip into overflow, caught by 5 micron sox, only in when running lc.

Denshine Disposable Enteral Nutrition Bag Feeding Bag, 1200ml Enteral Delivery Gravity/Pump Feeding Bag Set, Detachable Connector https://a.co/d/7TMTZGQ

 

[slingfox]

I use drip systems sold for watering plants. I just bought the smallest version of this type of product:

Amazon.com

As my tank was maturing I had to do a couple rounds of lanthanum to bring phosphate levels down. Now that my tank has stabilized the phosphate levels have steadily declined as nitrates have steadily climbed from zero (which meant I had to dose every week) to 8 ppm (with no dosing). You should look into what is causing phosphates to be elevated and see if you can address the root cause. For me it was over feeding + ugly stage, but I eventually got feeding dialed in, more livestock, and ugly phase eventually passed.

When I dosed lanthanum, I added it into an IV bag with RODI and slowly dripped it into a 10 micro sock over the course of 12-24+ hours. One time I dosed lanthanum into my RedSea rollermat but the roll was misaligned which was causing the mat not to properly filter things out (ie, water was running straight through the rollermat without being filtered). That time I dosed before bed and the next morning my young yellow tang was on the sand barely moving. The yellow tang was dead an hour later. This caused its best friend my one spot Foxface to go ballistic. Without its buddy to swim around with all day, the Foxface swam around crazily fast banging into everything in the tank. It eventually died two days later.

 

[DW66]

This is what i use for that purpose. I drip into overflow, caught by 5 micron sox, only in when running lc.

Denshine Disposable Enteral Nutrition Bag Feeding Bag, 1200ml Enteral Delivery Gravity/Pump Feeding Bag Set, Detachable Connector https://a.co/d/7TMTZGQ

Thanks this is exactly what I was looking for.

I have some 5 micron filter socks that I just acquired to Trey to siphon some diatoms out, they’re a good size but maybe I can cram one into my overflow.

 

[Pistondog]

Do not use lanthanum below po4 0.2 ppm, use gfo.
Below this level, free unreacted lanthanum may get to the dt and livestock causing health issues.

Lanthanum Chloride and Tangs | BeanAnimal's Reef

Lanthanum Chloride dosing in reef aquaria is an extremely effective means of phosphate removal. A growing body of evidence shows that fishes of the genus Zebrasoma may be highly sensitive to such treatments. This article examines my first hand experience.

beananimal.com

 

[DW66]

Do not use lanthanum below po4 0.2 ppm, use gfo.
Below this level, free unreacted lanthanum may get to the dt and livestock causing health issues.

Lanthanum Chloride and Tangs | BeanAnimal's Reef

Lanthanum Chloride dosing in reef aquaria is an extremely effective means of phosphate removal. A growing body of evidence shows that fishes of the genus Zebrasoma may be highly sensitive to such treatments. This article examines my first hand experience.

beananimal.com

I’m at .85, hoping to get and stay at around .03. Can’t imagine trying to get to below .02.

I use drip systems sold for watering plants. I just bought the smallest version of this type of product:

Amazon.com

As my tank was maturing I had to do a couple rounds of lanthanum to bring phosphate levels down. Now that my tank has stabilized the phosphate levels have steadily declined as nitrates have steadily climbed from zero (which meant I had to dose every week) to 8 ppm (with no dosing). You should look into what is causing phosphates to be elevated and see if you can address the root cause. For me it was over feeding + ugly stage, but I eventually got feeding dialed in, more livestock, and ugly phase eventually passed.

When I dosed lanthanum, I added it into an IV bag with RODI and slowly dripped it into a 10 micro sock over the course of 12-24+ hours. One time I dosed lanthanum into my RedSea rollermat but the roll was misaligned which was causing the mat not to properly filter things out (ie, water was running straight through the rollermat without being filtered). That time I dosed before bed and the next morning my young yellow tang was on the sand barely moving. The yellow tang was dead an hour later. This caused its best friend my one spot Foxface to go ballistic. Without its buddy to swim around with all day, the Foxface swam around crazily fast banging into everything in the tank. It eventually died two days later.

Stories like yours are what is leading me to be so cautious.

My hi pho’s was caused by, well, me. Not quite sure how, over feeding is probably a part, but like I said it’s been a struggle for the year and a half I’ve had this tank up and running. Still trying to get it to mature. But I think I’m finally getting the hang of this hobby. Taken a while and made some mistakes along the way. Just trying to avoid another one.

I will clamp a 5m sock to the side of my sump, right in front of the skimmer intake and then dose over 10 hours. Calculator says the dose needed is 23ml. I’ll dose 1/2 that in a liter of RODI and drop it into the sump.

 

[Pistondog]

I’m at .85, hoping to get and stay at around .03. Can’t imagine trying to get to below .02.

Stories like yours are what is leading me to be so cautious.

My hi pho’s was caused by, well, me. Not quite sure how, over feeding is probably a part, but like I said it’s been a struggle for the year and a half I’ve had this tank up and running. Still trying to get it to mature. But I think I’m finally getting the hang of this hobby. Taken a while and made some mistakes along the way. Just trying to avoid another one.

I will clamp a 5m sock to the side of my sump, right in front of the skimmer intake and then dose over 10 hours. Calculator says the dose needed is 23ml. I’ll dose 1/2 that in a liter of RODI and drop it into the sump.

Sound plan.
Just to clarify, do not use below 0.2 ppm.
You referenced 0.02 ppm.

 

[DW66]

Sound plan.
Just to clarify, do not use below 0.2 ppm.
You referenced 0.02 ppm.

Got it. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Kzang]

I’m at .85, hoping to get and stay at around .03. Can’t imagine trying to get to below .02.

Stories like yours are what is leading me to be so cautious.

My hi pho’s was caused by, well, me. Not quite sure how, over feeding is probably a part, but like I said it’s been a struggle for the year and a half I’ve had this tank up and running. Still trying to get it to mature. But I think I’m finally getting the hang of this hobby. Taken a while and made some mistakes along the way. Just trying to avoid another one.

I will clamp a 5m sock to the side of my sump, right in front of the skimmer intake and then dose over 10 hours. Calculator says the dose needed is 23ml. I’ll dose 1/2 that in a liter of RODI and drop it into the sump

If you have corals, I would lower your phosphate over a couple months. Lantheum chloride will 100% work quickly, it could shock or kill coral if you go from that extremely high phosphate to more normal levels.

Maybe lower it 0.1 per week at least?