JoJo's No Funny Business Office Tank Thread

[Miami Reef]

Guessing flameback angelfish wasn't on your "keep" list

Build Thread - JoJo's No Funny Business Office Tank Thread

What is going on with this yuma? It's standing up as tall as it can: Normally sitting like so: Are you saying your Yuma is erect?

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My luck is so terrible that I wouldn’t even consider them. I just think these are the tastiest corals in the market. They are the first to go with risky fish.

 

[JoJosReef]

My luck is so terrible that I wouldn’t even consider them. I just think these are the tastiest corals in the market. They are the first to go with risky fish.

Maybe a different tank, then!

Yours is stunning!

 

[fishguy242]

i 'd say you got your answer...

 

[JoJosReef]

i 'd say you got your answer...

My friend who has the flameback didn't even discuss it with me, just said he would only try it with an SPS dominant tank. Back to finding a reef safe butterfly fish!

 

[Miami Reef]

My friend who has the flameback didn't even discuss it with me, just said he would only try it with an SPS dominant tank. Back to finding a reef safe butterfly fish!

In my experience, lobo and acanthos are more resistant from getting picked at. Acanthos are more susceptible than lobos, but they pail in comparison to trachyphyllia.

I tried many copperbands, and never had one pick at any of my corals. I never had a fish nip my clams (I never tried large angels or trigger fish except a Niger trigger which is safe)

If you have a fish trap, there is very little risk to testing it out. The fish only nip at the brains which will cause them to retract. They will die over 1-2 months with repeated nipping, but that’s more than enough time to trap the fish and get it out.

I can trap any fish I want within a day. The bubble magus fish trap is a lifesaver.

 

[JoJosReef]

In my experience, lobo and acanthos are more resistant from getting picked at. Acanthos are more susceptible than lobos, but they pail in comparison to trachyphyllia.

I tried many copperbands, and never had one pick at any of my corals. I never had a fish nip my clams (I never tried large angels or trigger fish except a Niger trigger which is safe)

If you have a fish trap, there is very little risk to testing it out. The fish only nip at the brains which will cause them to retract. They will die over 1-2 months with repeated nipping, but that’s more than enough time to trap the fish and get it out.

I can trap any fish I want within a day. The bubble magus fish trap is a lifesaver.

Lost 3 clams early this year, so I'm holding off till I can figure out what's causing their deaths. But they are definitely on the list. Was considering a CBB, but the upgrade is only going to be a 48"x20"x20" tank (if it goes through). That seems to be cutting it close for a CBB, but I could also give it a try and see how it goes. I feed 4-6x/day, so lots of food.

 

[JoJosReef]

Well folks, looks like I'm moving forward with an upgrade!

Scheduled to pick up a new 48"x20"x20" 83 gal system with 26gal sump, stand, plumbing and gravity ATO, referral courtesy of our new Excellency @VintageReefer !

Not the dream tank. That's still to come one day and it'll be B-I-G and Notorious! But this is going to get me there in the meantime and hopefully let me break up these overcrowded corals and let them grow into the full colonies they deserve to be.

Stock pics:

I'll be keeping this build thread, just changing the title and original post links and whatnot.

Current new build plan:

Tank: Current USA 83 gal 48"x20"x20"
Sump: Current USA 29 gal ???
ATO: 9 gal acrylic tank with gravity ATO
Return: Current USA eFlux Loop DC Flow Return Pump 1900 GPH
Flow: 1x RFG overcranked, 2x Maxspect xf330
Feed: Avast Plank + Refrigerator doser for Reef Nutrition foods
Lights: 4x Noopsyche K7 Minis, working on hanging system; Reefbreeders Pico in Refugium
Sand: 60 lbs Natural Bahamas Oolitic Aragonite Coarse Sand (1- 2 mm) - Pisces Aqua, seeded with AquaForest LifeSource (with metallic bits removed)
Rocks: Current rocks + more Marshall Islands/Fiji rocks
Dosers: Reef Factory X3 in refrigerator for Reef Nutrition liquid food; Simplicity 4x doser for All-For-Reef
Skimmer: None
Filtration: cups with floss and carbon
Refugium: 1/2 cryptic, 1/2 macroalgae

Stocking:

Corals/nems/Macroalgae:
1. Everything in the 40g
2. Cynarina
3. More zoas
4. Elegance
5. Heliofunghia
6. Acantho
7. Tridacna and/or Hippopus clams

Refugium:
1. Codium
2. Pom Pom gracilaria
3. Botrycladia
4. Sponges (cryptic and non-cryptic)

Fish:
1. Macropharyngodon bipartitis
2. Halichoeres chrysus
3. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
4. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
5. Tailspot Blenny
6. Exquisite Firefish
7. Yasha Shrimp Goby
8. Foxface of some kind
9. Pseudojuloides severnsi
10. Halichoeres iridis
Pick 3:
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
11-13. Cirrhilabrus brunneus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus bathyphilus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rubeus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus laboutei
11-13. Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lineatus
11-13: Paracheilinus carpenteri
Pick one:
14. Macropharyngodon negrosensis
14. Anampses meleagrides
Pick one:
15. Halichoeres lapillus
15. Halichoeres "babi" pallidus
Pick one:
16. Anampses twistii
16. Anampses neoguinaicus
17. Copperband Butterfly--probably not.. but perhaps.. really shouldn't.. oh, maybe...

Maybe not get all 17 fish...

Exciting! Wife was very confused when I said I was picking up a tank next week, even though I told her last week I'd be moving money in and out as I sold and bought stuff for a new tank. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[VintageReefer]

Ohhhh I’m looking forward to this!

 

[Miami Reef]

The wood is beautiful.

 

[i cant think]

Well folks, looks like I'm moving forward with an upgrade!

Scheduled to pick up a new 48"x20"x20" 83 gal system with 26gal sump, stand, plumbing and gravity ATO, referral courtesy of our new Excellency @VintageReefer !

Not the dream tank. That's still to come one day and it'll be B-I-G and Notorious! But this is going to get me there in the meantime and hopefully let me break up these overcrowded corals and let them grow into the full colonies they deserve to be.

Stock pics:

I'll be keeping this build thread, just changing the title and original post links and whatnot.

Current new build plan:

Tank: Current USA 83 gal 48"x20"x20"
Sump: Current USA 29 gal ???
ATO: 9 gal acrylic tank with gravity ATO
Return: Current USA eFlux Loop DC Flow Return Pump 1900 GPH
Flow: 1x RFG overcranked, 2x Maxspect xf330
Feed: Avast Plank + Refrigerator doser for Reef Nutrition foods
Lights: 4x Noopsyche K7 Minis, working on hanging system; Reefbreeders Pico in Refugium
Sand: 60 lbs Natural Bahamas Oolitic Aragonite Coarse Sand (1- 2 mm) - Pisces Aqua, seeded with AquaForest LifeSource (with metallic bits removed)
Rocks: Current rocks + more Marshall Islands/Fiji rocks
Dosers: Reef Factory X3 in refrigerator for Reef Nutrition liquid food; Simplicity 4x doser for All-For-Reef
Skimmer: None
Filtration: cups with floss and carbon
Refugium: 1/2 cryptic, 1/2 macroalgae

Stocking:

Corals/nems/Macroalgae:
1. Everything in the 40g
2. Cynarina
3. More zoas
4. Elegance
5. Heliofunghia
6. Acantho
7. Tridacna and/or Hippopus clams

Refugium:
1. Codium
2. Pom Pom gracilaria
3. Botrycladia
4. Sponges (cryptic and non-cryptic)

Fish:
1. Macropharyngodon bipartitis
2. Halichoeres chrysus
3. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
4. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
5. Tailspot Blenny
6. Exquisite Firefish
7. Yasha Shrimp Goby
8. Foxface of some kind
9. Pseudojuloides severnsi
10. Halichoeres iridis
Pick 3:
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
11-13. Cirrhilabrus brunneus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus bathyphilus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rubeus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus laboutei
11-13. Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lineatus
11-13: Paracheilinus carpenteri
Pick one:
14. Macropharyngodon negrosensis
14. Anampses meleagrides
Pick one:
15. Halichoeres lapillus
15. Halichoeres "babi" pallidus
Pick one:
16. Anampses twistii
16. Anampses neoguinaicus
17. Copperband Butterfly--probably not.. but perhaps.. really shouldn't.. oh, maybe...

Maybe not get all 17 fish...

Exciting! Wife was very confused when I said I was picking up a tank next week, even though I told her last week I'd be moving money in and out as I sold and bought stuff for a new tank. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I’m going to be the devils advocate here but oh well… I’ve had 20-21 fish in a 4’x20”x18” tank.
5 of those 20/21 fish were rather large species - 2 Foxfaces, the Jade, CBB, Twin Spot Bristletooth Tang.
Seeing as you want mostly smaller species you could have all 17 if you wanted.

Here’s what I’d choose out of the optional lists;
11-13;
Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
Cirrhilabrus bathyphylus/laboutei
And a wildcard - Paracheilinus attenuatus?
14;
Macropharyngodon negrosensis - If possible I’d grab a pair or trio as males are just stunning.
15;
Halichoeres lapillus - Just look at the red the females have!
16;
Why not both
If you must choose one I’d honestly have to say the Twistii. I love mine as she just constantly hunts the rockwork all day. It does make it hard to get photos of her though.

 

[Stang67]

Well folks, looks like I'm moving forward with an upgrade!

Scheduled to pick up a new 48"x20"x20" 83 gal system with 26gal sump, stand, plumbing and gravity ATO, referral courtesy of our new Excellency @VintageReefer !

Not the dream tank. That's still to come one day and it'll be B-I-G and Notorious! But this is going to get me there in the meantime and hopefully let me break up these overcrowded corals and let them grow into the full colonies they deserve to be.

Stock pics:

I'll be keeping this build thread, just changing the title and original post links and whatnot.

Current new build plan:

Tank: Current USA 83 gal 48"x20"x20"
Sump: Current USA 29 gal ???
ATO: 9 gal acrylic tank with gravity ATO
Return: Current USA eFlux Loop DC Flow Return Pump 1900 GPH
Flow: 1x RFG overcranked, 2x Maxspect xf330
Feed: Avast Plank + Refrigerator doser for Reef Nutrition foods
Lights: 4x Noopsyche K7 Minis, working on hanging system; Reefbreeders Pico in Refugium
Sand: 60 lbs Natural Bahamas Oolitic Aragonite Coarse Sand (1- 2 mm) - Pisces Aqua, seeded with AquaForest LifeSource (with metallic bits removed)
Rocks: Current rocks + more Marshall Islands/Fiji rocks
Dosers: Reef Factory X3 in refrigerator for Reef Nutrition liquid food; Simplicity 4x doser for All-For-Reef
Skimmer: None
Filtration: cups with floss and carbon
Refugium: 1/2 cryptic, 1/2 macroalgae

Stocking:

Corals/nems/Macroalgae:
1. Everything in the 40g
2. Cynarina
3. More zoas
4. Elegance
5. Heliofunghia
6. Acantho
7. Tridacna and/or Hippopus clams

Refugium:
1. Codium
2. Pom Pom gracilaria
3. Botrycladia
4. Sponges (cryptic and non-cryptic)

Fish:
1. Macropharyngodon bipartitis
2. Halichoeres chrysus
3. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
4. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
5. Tailspot Blenny
6. Exquisite Firefish
7. Yasha Shrimp Goby
8. Foxface of some kind
9. Pseudojuloides severnsi
10. Halichoeres iridis
Pick 3:
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
11-13. Cirrhilabrus brunneus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus bathyphilus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rubeus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus laboutei
11-13. Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lineatus
11-13: Paracheilinus carpenteri
Pick one:
14. Macropharyngodon negrosensis
14. Anampses meleagrides
Pick one:
15. Halichoeres lapillus
15. Halichoeres "babi" pallidus
Pick one:
16. Anampses twistii
16. Anampses neoguinaicus
17. Copperband Butterfly--probably not.. but perhaps.. really shouldn't.. oh, maybe...

Maybe not get all 17 fish...

Exciting! Wife was very confused when I said I was picking up a tank next week, even though I told her last week I'd be moving money in and out as I sold and bought stuff for a new tank. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Slocke]

Fish:
1. Macropharyngodon bipartitis
2. Halichoeres chrysus
3. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
4. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
5. Tailspot Blenny
6. Exquisite Firefish
7. Yasha Shrimp Goby
8. Foxface of some kind
9. Pseudojuloides severnsi
10. Halichoeres iridis
Pick 3:
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
11-13. Cirrhilabrus brunneus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus bathyphilus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rubeus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus laboutei
11-13. Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lineatus
11-13: Paracheilinus carpenteri

Bathy
Ruby
Lubbocky

Pick one:
14. Macropharyngodon negrosensis
14. Anampses meleagrides

M negrosensis

Pick one:
15. Halichoeres lapillus
15. Halichoeres "babi" pallidus

Babi

Pick one:
16. Anampses twistii
16. Anampses neoguinaicus
17. Copperband Butterfly--probably not.. but perhaps.. really shouldn't.. oh, maybe...

Neo

Maybe not get all 17 fish...

There. Removed the annoying freedom of choice for you.

 

[Stang67]

 

[JoJosReef]

I’m going to be the devils advocate here but oh well… I’ve had 20-21 fish in a 4’x20”x18” tank.
5 of those 20/21 fish were rather large species - 2 Foxfaces, the Jade, CBB, Twin Spot Bristletooth Tang.
Seeing as you want mostly smaller species you could have all 17 if you wanted.

Here’s what I’d choose out of the optional lists;
11-13;
Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
Cirrhilabrus bathyphylus/laboutei
And a wildcard - Paracheilinus attenuatus?
14;
Macropharyngodon negrosensis - If possible I’d grab a pair or trio as males are just stunning.
15;
Halichoeres lapillus - Just look at the red the females have!
16;
Why not both
If you must choose one I’d honestly have to say the Twistii. I love mine as she just constantly hunts the rockwork all day. It does make it hard to get photos of her though.

Also thinking twistii, as the negrosensis or meleagrides covers my "dusky" colors! Attenuatis is an interesting wildcard. Will have to be on the lookout for a deal! Lapillus I've never seen available but I'd sell a kidney immediately -- apologies for the kidney deficient among us, just a saying!

Only doubts about the laboutei is if it will play nice as it ages, especially with Mr. And Mrs. Pink Streak.

 

[JoJosReef]

Bathy
Ruby
Lubbocky

M negrosensis

Babi

Neo

There. Removed the annoying freedom of choice for you.

Oh boy! Some varied opinions on the Pick 3s!

Honestly, if a babi and a lapillus showed up on the list, I'd just get both. Both are amazing fish--I think it'd be less preference and more availability.

At least there's agreement on the negrosensis! I was always leaning that way anyways

 

[Goaway]

I’m going to be the devils advocate here but oh well… I’ve had 20-21 fish in a 4’x20”x18” tank.
5 of those 20/21 fish were rather large species - 2 Foxfaces, the Jade, CBB, Twin Spot Bristletooth Tang.
Seeing as you want mostly smaller species you could have all 17 if you wanted.

Here’s what I’d choose out of the optional lists;
11-13;
Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
Cirrhilabrus bathyphylus/laboutei
And a wildcard - Paracheilinus attenuatus?
14;
Macropharyngodon negrosensis - If possible I’d grab a pair or trio as males are just stunning.
15;
Halichoeres lapillus - Just look at the red the females have!
16;
Why not both
If you must choose one I’d honestly have to say the Twistii. I love mine as she just constantly hunts the rockwork all day. It does make it hard to get photos of her though.

Having kept rather large fish in small tanks, in the past. I grew them out to sell later. It's how I stayed in the hobby. People paid a lot for grown fish to put into displays. Now its a lot different.

Clown tang was just to enjoy. But, she did have a backup home.

It's being able to understand if the fish is comfortable, or not. Some wild caught fish will never be happy. Just like wild caught birds.

Always have a backup plan if any fish becomes unhappy.

 

[VintageReefer]

Make sure you get a lid.
Walter lids has plans/ designs already made for this tank ready to go

 

[fishguy242]

wrasses, wrasses, just following along,maybe learn a thing or two,maybe...
i'ma waiting for the transfer...

 

[JoJosReef]

wrasses, wrasses, just following along,maybe learn a thing or two,maybe...
i'ma waiting for the transfer...

Might want to time the R2R express just right!

 

[rmorris_14]

Well folks, looks like I'm moving forward with an upgrade!

Scheduled to pick up a new 48"x20"x20" 83 gal system with 26gal sump, stand, plumbing and gravity ATO, referral courtesy of our new Excellency @VintageReefer !

Not the dream tank. That's still to come one day and it'll be B-I-G and Notorious! But this is going to get me there in the meantime and hopefully let me break up these overcrowded corals and let them grow into the full colonies they deserve to be.

Stock pics:

I'll be keeping this build thread, just changing the title and original post links and whatnot.

Current new build plan:

Tank: Current USA 83 gal 48"x20"x20"
Sump: Current USA 29 gal ???
ATO: 9 gal acrylic tank with gravity ATO
Return: Current USA eFlux Loop DC Flow Return Pump 1900 GPH
Flow: 1x RFG overcranked, 2x Maxspect xf330
Feed: Avast Plank + Refrigerator doser for Reef Nutrition foods
Lights: 4x Noopsyche K7 Minis, working on hanging system; Reefbreeders Pico in Refugium
Sand: 60 lbs Natural Bahamas Oolitic Aragonite Coarse Sand (1- 2 mm) - Pisces Aqua, seeded with AquaForest LifeSource (with metallic bits removed)
Rocks: Current rocks + more Marshall Islands/Fiji rocks
Dosers: Reef Factory X3 in refrigerator for Reef Nutrition liquid food; Simplicity 4x doser for All-For-Reef
Skimmer: None
Filtration: cups with floss and carbon
Refugium: 1/2 cryptic, 1/2 macroalgae

Stocking:

Corals/nems/Macroalgae:
1. Everything in the 40g
2. Cynarina
3. More zoas
4. Elegance
5. Heliofunghia
6. Acantho
7. Tridacna and/or Hippopus clams

Refugium:
1. Codium
2. Pom Pom gracilaria
3. Botrycladia
4. Sponges (cryptic and non-cryptic)

Fish:
1. Macropharyngodon bipartitis
2. Halichoeres chrysus
3. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
4. Pseudocheilinops ataenia
5. Tailspot Blenny
6. Exquisite Firefish
7. Yasha Shrimp Goby
8. Foxface of some kind
9. Pseudojuloides severnsi
10. Halichoeres iridis
Pick 3:
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis
11-13. Cirrhilabrus brunneus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus bathyphilus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus rubeus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus laboutei
11-13. Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
11-13. Cirrhilabrus lineatus
11-13: Paracheilinus carpenteri
Pick one:
14. Macropharyngodon negrosensis
14. Anampses meleagrides
Pick one:
15. Halichoeres lapillus
15. Halichoeres "babi" pallidus
Pick one:
16. Anampses twistii
16. Anampses neoguinaicus
17. Copperband Butterfly--probably not.. but perhaps.. really shouldn't.. oh, maybe...

Maybe not get all 17 fish...

Exciting! Wife was very confused when I said I was picking up a tank next week, even though I told her last week I'd be moving money in and out as I sold and bought stuff for a new tank. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯