Kessil controller

[rusty dowell]

I have kessil x controller
3 360x
2 160
1 360 we
Will the controller operate all six lights?
Currently, I have the 360 X with a controller, and the others are just on the timer.
Will the controller operate all six?

 

[ナイトコア猫]

Yes. At minimum, each EB832 strip operates 8 AC sockets. You can have all of them on a single EB832 ("Config A"), but it's better to stack lights functionally ("Config B").

This is what I recommend and actually use:​

• I use Config B below.
• I recommend Config C with all wifi for the Kessil 360_ series lights, and controlling the Kessil 160 x2 using abrupt but lazy EB832-controlled AC socket ON/OFF output.

These are all the options in detail:​

Neptune EB832 "Config A":

• Simplest deployment
• Highest use of individual sockets (perhaps wasteful of sockets)

ac_socket_0	Kessil 360x
ac_socket_1	Kessil 360x
ac_socket_2	Kessil 360x
ac_socket_3	Kessil 160
ac_socket_4	Kessil 160
ac_socket_5	Kessil 360we
ac_socket_6
ac_socket_7

Neptune EB832 ("Config B"):​

• Less use of sockets
• Within maximum power window of single socket
• Use an AC power splitter to split a single socket into additional sockets

ac_socket_0	Kessil 360x Kessil 360x Kessil 360x Kessil 160 Kessil 160 Kessil 360we
ac_socket_1
ac_socket_2
ac_socket_3
ac_socket_4
ac_socket_5
ac_socket_6
ac_socket_7

Kessil Spectral Controller X "Config C"—NOT Fully Compatible​

Kessil Spectral Controller X <===> Wifi Dongle	Wifi dongle 0	Kessil 360x
	Wifi dongle 1	Kessil 360x
	Wifi dongle 2	Kessil 360x
	Wifi dongle 3	Kessil 360we
Neptune APEX VDM or Kessil Spectral Controller X <===> 3.5 mm Splitter	3.5 mm output 0	Kessil 160
	3.5 mm output 1	Kessil 160

You can also deploy Kessil 360x and 360we onto normal AC sockets use Spectral Controller X with wireless:

A360X / A500X WiFi Dongle

Wireless Control of Kessil X Series LED Lights Program your Kessil A360X and A500X Lights wirelessly! If you have a single light the WiFi Dongle will plug directly into the K-Link connector on top of the light's housing, which will let you connect directly to the light with any Android or iOS...

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You will need 0-10V cords for the Kessil 160, however. You can then either connect the Kessil 160 lights to the Kessil Spectral Controller X via the appropriate cable:

Kessil Spectral Controller <===> Kessil 160

90 Degree Unit Link Cable

Perfect for Kessil H80 and A80 LED Lights The Kessil 90 Degree Adapter will work with any Kessil LED light that uses link cables and has minimal clearance around the control port. One of the ends of the cable has a 90-degree connection, instead of straight. The other end does still have a...

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Neptune Apex <===> Kessil 160

Kessil to Neptune Apex Control Cable

Use the Kessil A360/A160 Neptune Apex Control Cable to connect your Kessil 360 (A360N/360W) or A160 LED lights to your Neptune Systems Apex controller. Specifications Type 1 - compatible with Neptune Systems Apex controllers Length: 6 Ft. (1800mm) without connectors Color: Black One End: 1/8"...

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Control via Neptune APEX VDM (Config D):

Each of lighting intensity and lighting spectrum requires 1 VDM channel. If you only care about intensity or only spectrum, then you'll only need 1 VDM channel. There are 4 VDM channels on a single Neptune APEX, configured as 2 VDM sockets. Though there are cables that produce 2 3.5mm VDM outputs using a single VDM socket, these can be sketchy sometimes. In my experience with different products, sometimes this doesn't work well, possibly due to cable used.

Though there are 4 VDM outputs, there are only 2 physical VDM sockets on the Neptune APEX.

VDM_1: For lighting intensity and lighting spectrum
Neptune VDM socket <==> Split to 2 3.5mm <==> Split each 3.5mm to 6 sockets (1 per light)

There is a product on BRS available out-of-box; however, it has a few concerning reviews. In the past, I've used the product, and some worked and some did not. You may risk one of either lighting intensity or lighting spectrum not working if the cable is poor. The cleaner solution is to produce your own 3.5 mm -terminated cable using this:

2 Channel Apex to Light Dimming Cable

2 Channel Cable to connect two separate LED color channels from your 0-10V dimmable LED light to the Apex System or the Advanced LED Dimming Module – VDM. This cable has a RJ45 plug on one end and bare wires on the other that must be connected in the manner recommended by your LED manufacturer...

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Make note of the wiring instructions. From the reviews on BRS, it appears non-standard / backwards.

You'll then split the 3.5 mm, 1 for each of your 6 lights:




A lazy option is to waste VDM sockets:

VDM_0: For lighting intensity:
Neptune VDM socket <==> Split to 2 3.5mm <==> Split each 3.5mm to 6 sockets (1 per light)

VDM_1: For lighting spectrum:
Neptune VDM socket <==> Split to 2 3.5mm <==> Split each 3.5mm to 6 sockets (1 per light)

You'll use a cable like this:

Kessil to Neptune Apex Control Cable

Use the Kessil A360/A160 Neptune Apex Control Cable to connect your Kessil 360 (A360N/360W) or A160 LED lights to your Neptune Systems Apex controller. Specifications Type 1 - compatible with Neptune Systems Apex controllers Length: 6 Ft. (1800mm) without connectors Color: Black One End: 1/8"...

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This will work for sure, but takes up both VDM sockets on the Neptune APEX. You can always purchase more sockets, and this is more likely to be a robust design.

Same as before, you'll split your 3.5 mm lines for each of your lights:

 

[ナイトコア猫]

ナイトコア猫 actual setup reference example:​

Carefully pay attention to socket type of the power cord splitter. Also make note of amount of power required both per EB832 socket and summed total. There is a power trip reset button upper left behind—hold for a few moments to reset power trip.

If you want more control of individual sockets, then I recommend using Spectral Controller X with the 4 wireless dongles, one for each Kessil 360 type light. The Kessil 160 type lights will not work with any wireless dongle; for those 2 lights I recommend timer mode / AC socket. This makes the best aesthetics and control, and least messy wires to manage.

 

[rgulrich]

I have kessil x controller
3 360x
2 160
1 360 we
Will the controller operate all six lights?
Currently, I have the 360 X with a controller, and the others are just on the timer.
Will the controller operate all six?

I currently control 3 A500x on one channel *the K-Link port) and 6 A360we (the 0-10V port using 3mm cables to connect) on the other channel of my Kessil Spectral Controller X controller. I believe you shouldn't/can't control two different Kessil models (ie A360X and A500X) on the same channel. I'd have to double check the manual, though.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Ray
(I really shouldn't try to type out these response on my phone...fingers are too large for the keypad)

Late addition:
the Kessil User Manual illustrates (downlable here: http://kessil.com/downloads/accessories/5870124 A3 User Manual for Spectral Controller X.pdf) how to hook two different kinds of Kessil products in the section between "Navigation" and "Getting Started"

"The Spectral Controller X is compatible with the A360 and all the 0-10V Kessil lights" - from the manual​