Lion King's dead food recommendations

[Should I]

What fish are you feeding?

Many "silversides" that are being fed are actually types of smelt and are high in thiaminase, so unless you know for sure, it's best to avoid that "species name" altogether.

Here is my list of seafoods that are lower in thiaminase. Guppies and poecilids would be your easiest substitute for silversides. All seafoods should be augmented with vitamin E though....

Species lower in thiaminase
Atlantic cod (Gadus morhua)
Atlantic hake (Merluccius bilinearis)
Atlantic halibut (Hippoglossus hippoglossus)
Atlantic mackerel (Scomber scombrus)
Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar)
Brown trout (Salmo trutta)
Catfish (Ictalurus and related spp)
Cisco (Coregonus spp.)
Coho salmon (Oncorhynchus kisutch)
Flounder / sole (Pleuronectes and related spp.)
Haddock (Melanogrammus aeglefinus)
Hake (Urophycis spp)
Lake trout (Salvelinus namaycush)
Mullet (Mugilidae spp)
Poecilids (Guppies, platies, mollies)
Pollock/Pollack (Pollachius spp.)
Rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss)
Tilapia (Oreochromis spp)
Worms (Lumbricus spp)

how about this
octopus
squid
cuttlefish
whole prawns with shell
sockeye salmon
clam meat
half shell mussels
Cod roe (UK waters)
tiger prawns
oyster meat
Trout fillet (uk waters)
Catfish (dnu what kind the fishmongers don't say)
Black tilapia (wild river caught in india)

would these work? pretty much what i can get in the UK

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

how about this
octopus
squid
cuttlefish
whole prawns with shell
sockeye salmon
clam meat
half shell mussels
Cod roe (UK waters)
tiger prawns
oyster meat
Trout fillet (uk waters)
Catfish (dnu what kind the fishmongers don't say)
Black tilapia (wild river caught in india)

would these work? pretty much what i can get in the UK

The first three are mostly redundant, I feed squid because it’s cheaper.

I’m not sure about cod roe, you’ll have to look up its nutritional profile.

Tilapia is low in HUFAs I think.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Eel

Any mix from that list would work. I usually like to rotate through at least 3 food items. Eels sometimes go on hunger strikes, so be prepared to change up the foods being offered to try and jump start their feeding again.

 

[Should I]

Any mix from that list would work. I usually like to rotate through at least 3 food items. Eels sometimes go on hunger strikes, so be prepared to change up the foods being offered to try and jump start their feeding again.

so take off the tilapia and cod row and feed the rest?

 

[Should I]

also i can get octopus tenacles or the full octopus what would you recommend?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

also i can get octopus tenacles or the full octopus what would you recommend?

I'd opt for squid tubes and tentacles. You don't want to feed whole cephalopods due to the ink sacs.

 

[Should I]

I'd opt for squid tubes and tentacles. You don't want to feed whole cephalopods due to the ink sacs.

ah ok thanks wasnt sure about that

 

[littlefoxx]

Eel

I get some salmon for my eels occasionally, otherwise I feed squid and a few frozen predator specific mixes that have all kinds of meaty foods. I feed silversides but not all the time cause if the issue jay mentioned!

 

[littlefoxx]

ah ok thanks wasnt sure about that

What kind of eel?

 

[Foxreefs]

Eel

I've seen silversides in the UK before.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I've seen silversides in the UK before.

In the US, most fish foods sold as "silversides" are smelt, and are high in thiaminase:

Silversides confusion – many aquarists feed frozen “silversides” to their aquarium animals. True silversides (Atherinids) are low in thiaminase. Many fish food manufacturers use other fish species and call them “silversides”. Some of those fish are actually smelts or sardines and are high in thiaminase. Of five products on the market that were looked at, only one contained actual silversides (Rowlett, 2017). True silversides will have two dorsal fins (the first one may lie close to the body). The smelts have an adipose fin and a single dorsal fin (like trout do).

https://reefs.com/brief-word-silversides/

 

[Should I]

I've seen silversides in the UK before.

if you could send me a link of where you have seen them would be great

 

[Foxreefs]

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if you could send me a link of where you have seen them would be great

It was in the maidenhead aquatics reef keeper store a few months ago. It's the one place I have seen them in the UK. Next time I go there, which probably will be soon due to my acropora purchasing addiction, I will see if they have anymore.

 

[rubensito1]

Pro Salt sells frozen lance fish, would that be high or low in thiaminase?