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OK, I see your protein skimmer is not running. Has it always been that way?
Anywhere your water is actually flowing over the baffles, like a waterfall, like I can see in the lower right of picture #1 and possibly pic #2, there is the potential for bubble introduction so fill to where there is no falling water. Next get rid of the floss in the last baffle. I see that you only have two baffles and only one chamber to trap bubbles just prior to the return chamber. I also see that this is a DIY sump. (Mine as well). As such it shouldn't be too much of a problem to modify this section so that you have three baffles and two chambers for a true bubble trap just prior to your return chamber. I would place three baffles in a high-low-high configuration. This just makes cleaning the sump easier and removing detritus less of a pain. Not necessary though just easier down the line, so to speak. Currently, you have a low-high baffle configuration prior to your return chamber. Once you modify the sump, do the following.
1. Turn off everything. (You have not added or removed any water to the tank or sump, you just filled the sump to the level before you made baffle modifications) 2. Fill your sump to just barely below the top of your sump. 3. Start your return pump & let the water come to finds its level in the sump. 3. Start your protein skimmer. At this point, you will not have any floss in your new two-chamber, three baffle bubble trap this time. The trick will be figuring out how high to have your baffles. This is where adjustable baffles help. Generally, if I'm doing the DIY sump route with glued baffles I find my ideal water level to keep max water in the sump and proper flow while at the same time having the proper level for the protein skimmer before installing the baffles and then mark that level. If, at this point, you do not have sufficient water in the sump to eliminate any waterfall effects over your baffles you need to start adjusting the flow of your return pump and/or plug the anti-siphon hole you have drilled in your return line within your DT. Once you have figured enough flow, max 10 X tank volume, then put your anti -siphon hole just a hair below the surface on your return line in the DT. The idea is to eliminate as much, if not most all turbulence in the sump. Once you have done this, since you do not have livestock in your tank (I'm assuming), turn off the skimmer till you have something to skim. Don't put the floss back in. That is just a bubble trap that will let bigger bubbles through. The flow has to be fine-tuned so you are not pushing bubbles to your return section of the sump. Make sure to eliminate any bubbles sticking to any surfaces and let this ride for a week or so. It can be a little tricky but this is doable. You might have too small of a sump for the return pump. If you could give specifics about the size of your tank in volume and the size and dimensions of your sump as well as the return pump and rating as well as the protein skimmer type and size that might help others with any additional ideas/info.
I just figured out the whole issue. This is gonna sound crazy or stupid. My husband drilled a hole in the top return pipe for a siphon break. I covered the hole ALL BUBBLES STOPPED
 

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I just figured out the whole issue. This is gonna sound crazy or stupid. My husband drilled a hole in the top return pipe for a siphon break. I covered the hole ALL BUBBLES STOPPED

Yep, sounds like that was going to be it, I had a similar issue. For the most part mine doesn't do that and if it does it usually stops after i put my finger over the hole for a few seconds then let go.

Maybe make the hole smaller if possible and also Angle the hole in a way that the return water will come out of the hole but when the pump is off air will come through.
 
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Yep, sounds like that was going to be it, I had a similar issue. For the most part mine doesn't do that and if it does it usually stops after i put my finger over the hole for a few seconds then let go.

Maybe make the hole smaller if possible and also Angle the hole in a way that the return water will come out of the hole but when the pump is off air will come through.
Is it supposed to be under water? I'm a rookie when it comes to a plumbed tank. My 1st was a canister filter
 

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Skimmer is off because I'm cycling it said to turn off skimmer. It's a waterfall because we had equal sized baffles my husband cut a inch in the middle out hoping to fix I forget what he was trying to do. It's lexan. I placed the floss in to see if bubbles would stop. Display is a 75 gal
48 long
18 width
20 high.

Sump tank is a 20 gal long

Return pump is a jebao 2115 gph with water controller.

We can't take the sump tank out without emptying the entire display.

Skimmer is a seaclone 100

I think it's the return pipe. Somehow in the pipe it's creating bubbles or the return nozzles is.
It is very unlikely that it is the return pipe or nozzles. Due to pressure, it will not venturi air, but more likely it would spurt water. I would still do the modifications of the baffles with sump in situ. It is almost certainly sump related. Bubbles from the pipe or nozzles would not be that fine.
 

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Is it supposed to be under water? I'm a rookie when it comes to a plumbed tank. My 1st was a canister filter
Well, there you go. Yes it is supposed to be just under the water. I always angle my hole so the hole is angled but in-line with the output of the return nozzle. SOOOO glad you licked that monkey. Odd that the bubbles were so small.
 

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We have the hole drilled at the water line on display. I turned down my water controller. So like a 1in is above it now
I read the thread again. So the hole that is drilled in the return line in the DT is above the water line? If it is, that is the problem. It is sucking air. This hole should be under the water line. Mine is about 3/4" under the water level. If it is too close to the water line it can create a whirlpool and suck air. Try plugging the hole and see if that helps. If that works then figure out where you want a new hole after adjusting your flow.
 

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Also the hole could be too big. Only needs a tiny one. Something you can stick a tooth pick it to clean. :)
 

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