Microbacter Clean vs Razor

devin.reed2000 · Sep 20, 2023

What’s the difference? And will using them both together give better results rather than using one over the other?

Tuan’s Reef · Sep 20, 2023

Why do you need these products? You have algae issues ? Chemicals can only do so much. Root cause must be researched and dealt with. Have a pic of your tank? What are the water parameters?

devin.reed2000 · Sep 20, 2023

Tuan’s Reef said:
Why do you need these products? You have algae issues ? Chemicals can only do so much. Root cause must be researched and dealt with.

Ugly stage…And as far as i know Clean is more of a bacteria no? So if anything it’s not bad.

CasperOe · Sep 20, 2023

What are you trying to achieve exactly? :) Like Tuan is saying, stay away from chemicals like these! Address whatever issue you have instead..

CasperOe · Sep 20, 2023

devin.reed2000 said:
Ugly stage…And as far as i know Clean is more of a bacteria no? So if anything it’s not bad.

Wait it out mate! :) It's called a 'stage' for a reason- it will pass. With good husbandry that is, so don't worry!

This hobby is all about patience and not at all about any 'quick fix chemicals'. :)

devin.reed2000 · Sep 20, 2023

CasperOe said:
Wait it out mate! :) It's called a 'stage' for a reason- it will pass. With good husbandry that is, so don't worry!

This hobby is all about patience and not at all about any 'quick fix chemicals'. :)

Will do, thanks.

CasperOe · Sep 20, 2023

devin.reed2000 said:
Will do, thanks.

If you want to do anything for your tank at this stage, buy all the copepods you can afford (within reason!) if you haven't added any already! :) That will benefit you far both in the short- and long run than any of these "all you can wish for" chemicals..

Kasrift · Sep 20, 2023

CasperOe said:
Wait it out mate! :) It's called a 'stage' for a reason- it will pass. With good husbandry that is, so don't worry!

This hobby is all about patience and not at all about any 'quick fix chemicals'. :)

Microbacter Clean is a bacteria though. I dose it all the time as routine. I started dosing it when I set up my aquarium to help bypass the ugly phase, I think it works great. I’ve been meaning to get a doser for it for 5ml a day in my 32 gallon.

CasperOe · Sep 20, 2023

Kasrift said:
Microbacter Clean is a bacteria though. I dose it all the time as routine. I started dosing it when I set up my aquarium to help bypass the ugly phase, I think it works great. I’ve been meaning to get a doser for it for 5ml a day in my 32 gallon.

True! :) But it shouldn't really be necessary, should it? I mean, tons of reefers were successful before 2015 when this was introduced to the market? ;)

To my knowledge, Microbacter Clean is made to help digest uneaten food, detritus, and other organic material. All things that normal / good husbandry should take care off as well?

To be fair, my way is heavily based on a refugium growing lots and lots of chaeto. By following the Microbacter Clean-way i'd effectively combat the very thing that my nutrient export is relying on- green algae :)

Luckily there's no right or wrong approach to this hobby and many ways to achieve success. Your style is your own- and every day is a school day..

Tuan’s Reef · Sep 20, 2023

devin.reed2000 said:
Ugly stage…And as far as i know Clean is more of a bacteria no? So if anything it’s not bad.

It probably is bacteria and fine to use... But I recall Vibrant making that very same claim , looked at how that turned out.

Kasrift · Oct 5, 2023

CasperOe said:
True! :) But it shouldn't really be necessary, should it? I mean, tons of reefers were successful before 2015 when this was introduced to the market? ;)

To my knowledge, Microbacter Clean is made to help digest uneaten food, detritus, and other organic material. All things that normal / good husbandry should take care off as well?

To be fair, my way is heavily based on a refugium growing lots and lots of chaeto. By following the Microbacter Clean-way i'd effectively combat the very thing that my nutrient export is relying on- green algae :)

Luckily there's no right or wrong approach to this hobby and many ways to achieve success. Your style is your own- and every day is a school day..

True, I have an AIO though, so no Refugium. And to be honest, Fluval Flex 32 even with the InTank media caddies has terrible filtration.

As for adding bacteria, my understanding is that a fair amount gets skimmed out.