Microbe lift phos out

[Garf]

Is it a clear fluid?

Data sheet sais it is violet with a pH between 11 and 14, as far as I can tell.

 

[RoanokeReef]

From their site, sounds reef safe -
Phosphate Remover Quickly removes phosphate Improves turbidity ML/PR is harmless to invertebrates, and has been tested with and shown to be safe with most species of marine fish. Fish of the Acanthuridae family (Tangs, Surgeonfish) have shown a sensitivity to this product. We DO NOT recommend the use of ML/PR where these fish are present. Due to that fact that the chemical properties of the water in every aquarium are unique as a result of varying source water quality, the live and inert components introduced into the aquarium, and the chemical treatments used, it is impossible to predict how the product will react in every aquarium environment. If you notice an adverse effect on any of the aquatic life in your aquarium when using the product, discontinue use immediately and perform a partial water change. DO NOT OVERDOSE. USE ONLY THE AMOUNT DIRECTED FOR YOUR SYSTEM. DOSE FOR THE ACTUAL VOLUME OF WATER, NOT THE TANK CAPACITY

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Why do you think it does not contain any lanthanum? The tang warning seems to fit.

Dark violet is an unusual color, but it might be colored just to disguise it.

 

[Garf]

This version appears to be GFO;

Microbe-Lift Phos-Out 4 Granules 1000ml. = 625gr. | Microbe-Lift water care / nutrition reef | Filtermedia https://share.google/WCKhZQ746nU7F1Amz

 

[scotty333]

Vibrant would like to have a word with you.
Difference with your list is we know the ingredients.

You’re very suspicious, are you suggesting they put copper in just to p people off ?
I mean it’s no conspiracy, I have doubts it’ll work but it’s worth a try

 

[scotty333]

Why do you think it does not contain any lanthanum? The tang warning seems to fit.

Dark violet is an unusual color, but it might be colored just to disguise it.

I think it would be listed as lanthium and I don’t believe the tang warning if used correctly
I’ll see the colour and smell tomorrow

 

[scotty333]

This version appears to be GFO;

Microbe-Lift Phos-Out 4 Granules 1000ml. = 625gr. | Microbe-Lift water care / nutrition reef | Filtermedia https://share.google/WCKhZQ746nU7F1Amz

Again is that another suspicious ingredient or is it just gfo

 

[RoanokeReef]

You’re very suspicious, are you suggesting they put copper in just to p people off ?
I mean it’s no conspiracy, I have doubts it’ll work but it’s worth a try

I think it would be listed as lanthium and I don’t believe the tang warning if used correctly
I’ll see the colour and smell tomorrow

I'm suspicious when a company doesn't list ingredients, Vibrant was using algaecide in their product without listing it. You think they would list it? They didn't list any ingredient which is the issue I have.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I think it would be listed as lanthium and I don’t believe the tang warning if used correctly
I’ll see the colour and smell tomorrow

Why would they list lanthanum, but not some other ingredient?

I have no idea what it is. The pH is also oddly high.

 

[scotty333]

Why do you think it does not contain any lanthanum? The tang warning seems to fit.

Dark violet is an unusual color, but it might be colored just to disguise it.

Also
Agent green and rx which are lanthium don’t give a tang warning

 

[Pistondog]

Why do you think it does not contain any lanthanum? The tang warning seems to fit.

Dark violet is an unusual color, but it might be colored just to disguise it.

1st post has a pic of the product.
Lower right of the bottle says lanthanum free, with "La" and circle slash.

 

[scotty333]

Why would they list lanthanum, but not some other ingredient?

I have no idea what it is. The pH is also oddly high.

They don’t list lanthium

 

[scotty333]

Why would they list lanthanum, but not some other ingredient?

I have no idea what it is. The pH is also oddly high.

Do polymers raise ph perhaps?

 

[scotty333]

I’m going to treat it like lanthium given the tang warning and dose it into the skimmer , then pass a dense filter wool and then a caluerpa forest so none should get in the display

 

[Garf]

Is this clause standard or even legal?

 

[scotty333]

Is this clause standard or even legal?

Maybe it’s ricin or anthrax

 

[Garf]

Maybe it’s ricin or anthrax

LOL. I've only seen chemical health and safety data sheets for the UK before, and none that claims a bacterial element to the product, as this does. I don't remember them saying that if anything is inaccurate, dangerous, it's the users fault for not obtaining the correct information. That's the purpose of this document, to provide that info, not to double as a get out of jail free card.

 

[scotty333]

LOL. I've only seen chemical health and safety data sheets for the UK before, and none that claims a bacterial element to the product, as this does. I don't remember them saying that if anything is inaccurate, dangerous, it's the users fault for not obtaining the correct information. That's the purpose of this document, to provide that info, not to double as a get out of jail free card.

So your on the fence then?

 

[Garf]

So your on the fence then?

I'd love to see if they've added a purple dye to imply it's purple bacteria, to jump onto that gravy train.

 

[scotty333]

I'd love to see if they've added a purple dye to imply it's purple bacteria, to jump onto that gravy train.

Purple bacteria !? What kind is that then?