Borchers
Community Member
So in November 2013 I placed a medium sized order about 12 pieces of Zoas and SPS
Superman Millie
Tequila Sunrise Millie
Pink Lemonade
And more
Well I receive my order and it's late to the door but that's not the worst part. Most of its dead or dying. I send emails and we go back and fourth about it. A deal is made to reship the order. Now the fun part. I've notice that the coral sent are not even the same corals as I bought. I purchased 6 types of SPS
Millie's
Prostrata
Tenius
Digitata
Deep water
Granulosa
We all know that they have very different coralite structures, growth, polyps and more. What I see in my order is nothing but straight Millie's....nothing else. I asked about this. Sunny's response was that "you know they are not WYSIWYG" I understand that. But in the listings that I picked it stated that WYSIWYG. That's what I thought I was getting. Not even the same corals were shipped. He claims that it meant that you'll receive something from the same colony. I fully understood that. But shipping corals that were not even what you ordered is way different.
Part 2
Everything is fresh cut...I mean everything is fresh cut. Cut, Glued and shipped. No chance of ever healing
Part 3
After going back with emails for a few days it's decided that he will recut, heal and ship out the replacement corals after having it out with UPS.
Fast forward 2 months. Still no shipments received. I get emails about weather, still not happy with the frags and were are running low on that coral. So I wait. Giving him the benefit of the doubt. I see that he has a few more corals that I'm interested in so I make a deal to add a few more frags to the order to help with the replacement frags he's already sending out. I'm. At over $250.00 I've paid him. I have records for proof.
Part 4
Now it's May 2104- after over 200 hundred emails about coral health, (I also kept every single email that I sent and that he sent) current stock, shipping delays, not being in the office, I missed another truck from UPS, we ran out of that coral, it's in high demand can't ship you the coral you bought and paid for, choose another, no another coral. I mean he gave me about 30 different excuses about why he couldn't ship why he wanted to cut the frags to let them heal and he wanted me to be happy with the order. I finally receive my order of Frags. Now at this point I knew a few would be fresh cut and I accepted that. 3 or 4 out of the now 30 frags in my order I was cool with. My order arrives late again in which he was ****** about and I was too bit the order looked more promising this time. Now this time around I had ordered more SPS giving me 8 types of SPS including the Strawberry Shortcake, Superman Millie, Lokani, Granulosa, Prostrata, Deep Water, Tennius and more not including the Zoas and Palys I ordered which is a whole other ball of Wax. I ordered one of each of his best ones about 15 total.
Bloody Mary
nightmare
Master of Disaster
Freddy's Revenge
Spider-Man's
Rainbow Chaos and more
Aztec micros
Part 5
What do I get in my box 100% fresh cut frags. Every single frag is fresh cut. Nothing healed or healthy. None of the Frahs I asked for and paid for. No SSC, No Superman Digi, all of the SPS look like they are cut from the same colony not separate colonies but 1 colony. The only one that looks correct is the deep water. But even then it's nothing like the pictures. I ask about the quality of the frags and I get the same canned answer about I knew about fresh cuts and that again they are not WYSIWYG. Again I remind him that on his site it's states That what you order is what you get and it's the same answers back.
Part 6
2 days later the entire order is dead, I missing frags I ordered, I'm short frags and more. I have so had it with this guy. He's lied at every email. His stock is not even close to what you get Or in the photos he posts. By the way I found that he reuses the same stock photos on every single order. He's selling things that he's says he's out of and then ships it out to someone else. He re lists the stuff I was told he was out of and in my order. He's never updated the site with what's in stock. He claims that he's short on everything but lists it all on eBay everyday. The same stuff over and over and over agin. This cut is a Running a coral chop shop! I tried to be patient with him. I waited 6 months for my order. I was polite at very corner but I still got lied to, sold junk and then ripped off.
The above is 100% my story and I can prove it all with the 200+ emails! PayPal records and more. Photos if needed. I have about 30 frags on nothing. Dead corals that never had a chance to make it. I recently learned that a few of my fellow reefers in my area had also received the same type of orders, fresh cuts, dead corals and missing frags. I have never written a bad review but after what he did I felt this needed to be said. I read the recent reviews online....not his eBay store but other forums and such. You can google him and see that I'm not making this stuff up. I'm not out to get him but I would like a real answer about the orders. Do I want replacements sure, will they survive maybe? will they be fresh cuts? Yes absolutely. I know that in this hobby there is no guarantee in Frags but giving them a healthy head start helps.
Did he have to replace the original corals maybe not, but he did have to send me what I paid for. And that's a fact. You should receive what you paid for not another SPS of the same type. I ordered a Prostrata I should get a Prostrata. I ordered a Tennius not another Millie. So in closing you can do your own research and take me review any way you want it. Do I have proof? Yes . do I have all of the frag plugs? Yes do I have the Paypal receipts? Yes. Do I have the emails? Yes
You be the judge.
Borchers
Esparto Ca.
Superman Millie
Tequila Sunrise Millie
Pink Lemonade
And more
Well I receive my order and it's late to the door but that's not the worst part. Most of its dead or dying. I send emails and we go back and fourth about it. A deal is made to reship the order. Now the fun part. I've notice that the coral sent are not even the same corals as I bought. I purchased 6 types of SPS
Millie's
Prostrata
Tenius
Digitata
Deep water
Granulosa
We all know that they have very different coralite structures, growth, polyps and more. What I see in my order is nothing but straight Millie's....nothing else. I asked about this. Sunny's response was that "you know they are not WYSIWYG" I understand that. But in the listings that I picked it stated that WYSIWYG. That's what I thought I was getting. Not even the same corals were shipped. He claims that it meant that you'll receive something from the same colony. I fully understood that. But shipping corals that were not even what you ordered is way different.
Part 2
Everything is fresh cut...I mean everything is fresh cut. Cut, Glued and shipped. No chance of ever healing
Part 3
After going back with emails for a few days it's decided that he will recut, heal and ship out the replacement corals after having it out with UPS.
Fast forward 2 months. Still no shipments received. I get emails about weather, still not happy with the frags and were are running low on that coral. So I wait. Giving him the benefit of the doubt. I see that he has a few more corals that I'm interested in so I make a deal to add a few more frags to the order to help with the replacement frags he's already sending out. I'm. At over $250.00 I've paid him. I have records for proof.
Part 4
Now it's May 2104- after over 200 hundred emails about coral health, (I also kept every single email that I sent and that he sent) current stock, shipping delays, not being in the office, I missed another truck from UPS, we ran out of that coral, it's in high demand can't ship you the coral you bought and paid for, choose another, no another coral. I mean he gave me about 30 different excuses about why he couldn't ship why he wanted to cut the frags to let them heal and he wanted me to be happy with the order. I finally receive my order of Frags. Now at this point I knew a few would be fresh cut and I accepted that. 3 or 4 out of the now 30 frags in my order I was cool with. My order arrives late again in which he was ****** about and I was too bit the order looked more promising this time. Now this time around I had ordered more SPS giving me 8 types of SPS including the Strawberry Shortcake, Superman Millie, Lokani, Granulosa, Prostrata, Deep Water, Tennius and more not including the Zoas and Palys I ordered which is a whole other ball of Wax. I ordered one of each of his best ones about 15 total.
Bloody Mary
nightmare
Master of Disaster
Freddy's Revenge
Spider-Man's
Rainbow Chaos and more
Aztec micros
Part 5
What do I get in my box 100% fresh cut frags. Every single frag is fresh cut. Nothing healed or healthy. None of the Frahs I asked for and paid for. No SSC, No Superman Digi, all of the SPS look like they are cut from the same colony not separate colonies but 1 colony. The only one that looks correct is the deep water. But even then it's nothing like the pictures. I ask about the quality of the frags and I get the same canned answer about I knew about fresh cuts and that again they are not WYSIWYG. Again I remind him that on his site it's states That what you order is what you get and it's the same answers back.
Part 6
2 days later the entire order is dead, I missing frags I ordered, I'm short frags and more. I have so had it with this guy. He's lied at every email. His stock is not even close to what you get Or in the photos he posts. By the way I found that he reuses the same stock photos on every single order. He's selling things that he's says he's out of and then ships it out to someone else. He re lists the stuff I was told he was out of and in my order. He's never updated the site with what's in stock. He claims that he's short on everything but lists it all on eBay everyday. The same stuff over and over and over agin. This cut is a Running a coral chop shop! I tried to be patient with him. I waited 6 months for my order. I was polite at very corner but I still got lied to, sold junk and then ripped off.
The above is 100% my story and I can prove it all with the 200+ emails! PayPal records and more. Photos if needed. I have about 30 frags on nothing. Dead corals that never had a chance to make it. I recently learned that a few of my fellow reefers in my area had also received the same type of orders, fresh cuts, dead corals and missing frags. I have never written a bad review but after what he did I felt this needed to be said. I read the recent reviews online....not his eBay store but other forums and such. You can google him and see that I'm not making this stuff up. I'm not out to get him but I would like a real answer about the orders. Do I want replacements sure, will they survive maybe? will they be fresh cuts? Yes absolutely. I know that in this hobby there is no guarantee in Frags but giving them a healthy head start helps.
Did he have to replace the original corals maybe not, but he did have to send me what I paid for. And that's a fact. You should receive what you paid for not another SPS of the same type. I ordered a Prostrata I should get a Prostrata. I ordered a Tennius not another Millie. So in closing you can do your own research and take me review any way you want it. Do I have proof? Yes . do I have all of the frag plugs? Yes do I have the Paypal receipts? Yes. Do I have the emails? Yes
You be the judge.
Borchers
Esparto Ca.
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