New Experiment.... Nitrate Dosing with Spectracide Stump Remover

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  1. Pete polyp

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    If you're skimming and having issues with no nitrates then it's as simple as to stop skimming or putting your skimmer on a timer.
     

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    I have the same issue. Dosing nitrate should be a last resort. If any other way possible to increase nitrate then I would suggest that route. I have been dosing stump remover for about a year and a half. I have tried everything else before starting to dose.
     
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    A 60 gallon with no sand minimalist rock scape and 10 fish 2 being nice size tangs I I remove the skimmer I'm sure the nutrients will build up but beyond my control. ImageUploadedByREEF2REEF1445745558.354538.jpg
     
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    Luis they are not saying remove it completely but maybe only run it every other day. See what that does. I tried that a couple weeks back and I couldn't tell a difference in anything but I also didn't have a test kit then either. I have found that the more I feed the more algae I get so I believe it would only raise P for me.
     
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    Got a question for Russ or Todd or anyone experienced with this, I have been dosing vinegar for over a year. I do it more for the bacteria to help feed coral than anything. Do I need to stop that? Am I countering the nitrate dosing with the vinegar dosing?

    I am going to post day 1 results in just a minute. Waiting the 9 minutes....
     
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    Day 1 Results

    24 hours after dosing I am showing 0 nitrates. Not sure if the tank ate it up that quick or if my test kit is bad. I didn't get a chance to test after I dosed yesterday but I will dose today and test 2 hours after. Will report my findings later.

    Phosphates are in the .02-.04 range. Slight drop but could be coincidental.

    No noticeable changes to coral. Not that I would expect anything after 1 day anyway.
     
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    That's because it won't do anything. When you have a nitrate depleted system and you remove the skimmer the only thing that will rise is phosphates and yes nitrates might start rising after a long time but if the rock and bacteria can handle it which is the case in my tank then I will still be with no nitrates.
     
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    2 hours after dosing this morning my N is between .75 and 1 ppm. I believe my tank is eating it up. I will wait another hour or so and dose again to see if I can get it up to around 2-3ppm and then recheck. I will report back later.
     
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    I have been using the stump remover for a bout a month. I am keeping my No3 at 2ppm and I am seeing some color starting to come back to my corals. I need to get my phosphate up as well as it is still reading 0ppm.

    When I first started dosing No3 one of my Orange Monti's turned grey. I asked Randy in another thread if this could be a lack of Potassium or too much from adding the stump remover. He said he highly doubted it would have much if any effect on it.
     
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    Tim which one you are using?
     
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    I just got a bottle my self. I check my nitrates today and look no surprise 0 nitrates. ImageUploadedByREEF2REEF1445818726.879341.jpg
     
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    I use Spectracide Stump remover.
     
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    Tim what mixture do you use ?
     
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    Started tonight. I added 5 tbs to 500ml of water and dosed 5 ml to try and get my nitrates to 2 ppm. I used an old bottle I had of Red Sea potassium to put the liquid on.
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    Paul after dosing 10ml of my solution my nitrates went to 0.25 I'll test in the morning again
     
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    Day 2 results

    Nitrates were between .5 and .75 this morning. I dosed a total of 26ml yesterday. 16 first thing and 10 around lunch. I doses 20 this morning and will check this afternoon to see where I am at.

    No chage in coral yet but it is still very early. I did notice some brown on the sand. Not sure of it is from the nitrates or gfo exhausted. I am wanting to wean off the gfo anyway and quit using it.
     
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    Are you still carbon dosing?
     
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    One month ago i was dosing NaNo3to rise my nitrates. I was dosing slowly and had a great result in my LPS corals. Also my Po4 was going down but also i get some brown film on my sand. After that i was afraid and i just stop. Now my nitrates are down to 0 and LPS are not happy again... want to try again with dosing but i dont want to have algae issues.
     
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